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I'd pile on to this sentiment with noticing that many kids who do read these days are not progression past YA fiction in their discretionary reading options.
by randogogogo 7y ago
I'd pile on to this sentiment with noticing that many kids who do read these days are not progression past YA fiction in their discretionary reading options.
- SolaceQuantum 7y agoYA fiction isn't any less literature than other fiction.
- liability 7y agoTrue if literature isn't synonymous with 'worthwhile.'
- SolaceQuantum 7y agoIt isn't synonymous with 'worthwhile'. That's just true. For one thing, 'literature' is a form of media, 'worthwhile' is an subjective quality of experience.
- liability 7y agoYou snark, but I think the enclosing conversation was about whether YA fiction is worthwhile (or, whether we should be concerned when people fail to progress past it), not whether it's literature.
- SolaceQuantum 7y agoWhether or not a literal entire genre of literature is worthwhile is itself a question of the worthwhileness, IMO. Historically, this has already been debated multiple times with multiple different genres- experimental fiction, fiction by female authors, fantasy, scifi, fiction by american authors. Must we repeat it for every new genre that becomes popular or even remotely prominent in the sphere of mainstream consumption?
- liability 7y agoI assert that some books have more value to children than others and that the distribution of worthwhile books is different in different genres. I further assert that YA fiction is proportionally less worthwhile than other genres generally accessible to the "young adult" demographic. Can you convince me that any of those assertions is wrong? Pointing out that "YA fiction is literature" doesn't come anywhere close to refuting any of the above assertions.
- SolaceQuantum 7y agoNeither have you refuted that this has been a historical game of stack ranking literary genres and I’m asking when we will grow up and let people enjoy good books.
- saagarjha 7y agoI mean…they are young adults.
- wott 7y agoWe live in very regressive times in that respect. As kids, we used to read and watch books and series and movies which mostly were originally intended for adults (I don't pretend that we didn't read any children literature or watch any youth program, but the former was seen as a step and the latter wasn't mass produced, so the natural way was to quickly evolve to adult literature and movies, just keeping a small regressive space for children/youth stuff). But now adults read and watch stuff that is specially designed for teenagers! Even in a for-kids/for-youth book collection, where we used to have Jack London, Jules Vernes, James F. Cooper, Alexandre Dumas and so on mixed with more specific children's literature; I looked at the current catalogue the other day: such authors have been erased, and the whole offer is now made of novelisations of Star Wars, novelisations of cartoons and novelisations of comics... Oh you can still find them in other collections, but those are a bit more, how to put it, distinguished/smart collections (and aimed at a bit older age); so that was quite a shock to browse the catalogue of the 'standard' kids collection.