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The racism is actually shown by Kashmiri Muslims who ethnically cleansed Kashmiri Hindus. Hundreds of thousands of Hindus were forced to leave the Kashmir Valle

by ican1 7y ago

The racism is actually shown by Kashmiri Muslims who ethnically cleansed Kashmiri Hindus. Hundreds of thousands of Hindus were forced to leave the Kashmir Valley.[1] Hundreds of Hindu temples were destroyed.[2][3] Even now they're forcing people from other Indian states to leave.[4] If the behavior of Indian forces is really as bad as it is claimed then why no large scale migration of Kashmiri Muslims happened like it happened for Kashmiri Hindus or Rohingyas[5]? [1]https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exodus_of_Kashmiri_Hindus https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exodus_of_Kashmiri_Hindus [2]https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/208-temples-destroyed-in-kashmir-in-20-years-says-j-k-government.488457/&ved=2ahUKEwiKueLI9LTkAhUmhOAKHdb7AZgQFjACegQIDxAJ&usg=AOvVaw3WE1KoiPqrpal5K5fFkVwn https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/208-temples-destroyed-in-kash... [3]https://www.google.com/amp/s/arisebharat.com/2019/02/13/a-list-of-temples-destroyed-in-the-kashmir-valley-between-1986-1996/amp/ https://www.google.com/amp/s/arisebharat.com/2019/02/13/a-li... [4]https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2019/08/workers-kashmir-told-leave-demography-fears-190825140146087.html https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2019... [5]https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rohingya_conflict https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rohingya_conflict

jcranmer 7y ago
> If the behavior of Indian forces is really as bad as it is claimed then why no large scale migration of Kashmiri Muslims happened like it happened for Kashmiri Hindus or Rohingyas[5]? A plausible answer (I know not if this is true or not) is that the Indian security forces are preventing people from emigrating. This is why you don't see a massive exodus of Uighurs from Xinjiang, for example.
dang 7y ago
Please don't use HN for nationalistic flamewar. At least the parent comment had something to do with the topic. We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20866359 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20866359 and marked it off-topic.
- ican1 7y ago
  How can the parent topic be something to do with the topic but this comment is not? How can one talk about the Kashmir conflict without discussing it's history? There's regularly discussions about various political/controversial topics in HN without them getting shut down. You are really showing your bias here, dang.
  - dang 7y ago
    The parent comment had at least a tenuous connection to the topic of internet shutdowns, while yours became unhinged from that completely and was only about the politics of Kashmir. Both were bad, but yours was worse for HN for that reason. This has nothing to do with which sides you and the other person are on. I don't care, nor even look at the comments for that information. It always feels like the mods are biased. The other side feels the mods are biased the other way. In reality we know nothing about Kashmir; we simply know is that HN is not a place for people to have flamewars about it.
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nashashmi 7y ago
On topic 4: India is encouraging citizens of other states to leave. On topic 2,3: locals were fighting hindu locals mostly in response to political conflicts. This happens everywhere in all of India where temples and mosques get destroyed. On topic 1, those were insurgents seeking independence. Much of the violence against locals has been in response to political events. India has found it difficult to maintain peace in kashmir. And so has the kashmir govt. But like normal terrorism, do not attribute the actions of a few to all people. Lowering tension and then creating agreement is the only way to ensure peace. The current govt has not done that.

by ican1 7y ago

jcranmer 7y ago

> If the behavior of Indian forces is really as bad as it is claimed then why no large scale migration of Kashmiri Muslims happened like it happened for Kashmiri Hindus or Rohingyas[5]? A plausible answer (I know not if this is true or not) is that the Indian security forces are preventing people from emigrating. This is why you don't see a massive exodus of Uighurs from Xinjiang, for example.

dang 7y ago

Please don't use HN for nationalistic flamewar. At least the parent comment had something to do with the topic. We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20866359 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20866359 and marked it off-topic.

ican1 7y ago
How can the parent topic be something to do with the topic but this comment is not? How can one talk about the Kashmir conflict without discussing it's history? There's regularly discussions about various political/controversial topics in HN without them getting shut down. You are really showing your bias here, dang.
- dang 7y ago
  The parent comment had at least a tenuous connection to the topic of internet shutdowns, while yours became unhinged from that completely and was only about the politics of Kashmir. Both were bad, but yours was worse for HN for that reason. This has nothing to do with which sides you and the other person are on. I don't care, nor even look at the comments for that information. It always feels like the mods are biased. The other side feels the mods are biased the other way. In reality we know nothing about Kashmir; we simply know is that HN is not a place for people to have flamewars about it.

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nashashmi 7y ago

On topic 4: India is encouraging citizens of other states to leave. On topic 2,3: locals were fighting hindu locals mostly in response to political conflicts. This happens everywhere in all of India where temples and mosques get destroyed. On topic 1, those were insurgents seeking independence. Much of the violence against locals has been in response to political events. India has found it difficult to maintain peace in kashmir. And so has the kashmir govt. But like normal terrorism, do not attribute the actions of a few to all people. Lowering tension and then creating agreement is the only way to ensure peace. The current govt has not done that.