>This is where environmental engineering comes in but God forbid someone suggest us actually making intended changes to our climate to fix problems to the curre

>This is where environmental engineering comes in but God forbid someone suggest us actually making intended changes to our climate to fix problems to the current breed of environmentalists The only environmental engineering that can bring back the world our civilization is used to is sucking carbon from the air or water and sequestering it. All the rest have rather large tradeoffs. Sunshades/aerosols? Still leaves the oceans to acidify. As well as any other negative effects of CO2 (there are some preliminary studies showing cognitive effects). Not to mention any unforeseen side effects, and also then that our survival depends in continual geoengineering with bo interruption due to war etc. The parent you're replying to is also wrong though. We can't just "use less" for two reasons. 1. We're already past some tipping points. We basically need to use zero 2. Keeping the current population alive depends on carbon use at present We probably will geoengineer if we fail to figure out negative emissions, but I think you're far too blasé about the consequences.