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> I'm astonished at all the comments that vilify MongoDB Inc and then talk about moving to AWS's MongoDB clone. What sort of twisted world are we living in wher

> I'm astonished at all the comments that vilify MongoDB Inc and then talk about moving to AWS's MongoDB clone. What sort of twisted world are we living in where a company makes a service, tries to sell the service, and then are lambasted when they try to prevent a competitor from copying it wholesale? The bait and switch strategy is deceptive. It's aim is to milk customers to give some money back the the VCs. But this license minefield is user-hostile. Users don't like companies exhibiting hostile behavior towards them. Simple.

statictype 7y ago
It's not really a bait and switch. They didn't use an Open Source license with the intention of getting popular and then pulling the rug out from underneath users. They tried to make their money by offering their tech as a service and found that they couldn't compete against the resources of large cloud providers who were happily profiting off of their (and the community's) hard work.
- grumpydba 7y ago
  > They tried to make their money by offering their tech as a service and found that they couldn't compete against the resources of large cloud providers who were happily profiting off of their (and the community's) hard work. And now the community's hard work is licensed under a new and restrictive license which, due to legal constraints, cannot be used in entreprise setups.
  - timfrietas 7y ago
    And now the community's hard work is licensed under a new and restrictive license which, due to legal constraints, cannot be used in entreprise setups. Sure it can. It is fairly narrow in that it targets reselling it as-a-service. Many large companies are still running MongoDB for enterprise workloads, the SSPL does not change that.
    - grumpydba 7y ago
      Yeah go ahead and try using such a byzantine license in big corps. I know my legal department wouldn't even dare taking the risk.

statictype 7y ago

It's not really a bait and switch. They didn't use an Open Source license with the intention of getting popular and then pulling the rug out from underneath users. They tried to make their money by offering their tech as a service and found that they couldn't compete against the resources of large cloud providers who were happily profiting off of their (and the community's) hard work.

grumpydba 7y ago
> They tried to make their money by offering their tech as a service and found that they couldn't compete against the resources of large cloud providers who were happily profiting off of their (and the community's) hard work. And now the community's hard work is licensed under a new and restrictive license which, due to legal constraints, cannot be used in entreprise setups.
- timfrietas 7y ago
  And now the community's hard work is licensed under a new and restrictive license which, due to legal constraints, cannot be used in entreprise setups. Sure it can. It is fairly narrow in that it targets reselling it as-a-service. Many large companies are still running MongoDB for enterprise workloads, the SSPL does not change that.
  - grumpydba 7y ago
    Yeah go ahead and try using such a byzantine license in big corps. I know my legal department wouldn't even dare taking the risk.