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> Give me an interface as nice as Gmail's, and I'll consider it. How about Gnus? A single interface for mail, news, RSS, even files on your local machine. Re

by rwl 16y ago

> Give me an interface as nice as Gmail's, and I'll consider it. How about Gnus? A single interface for mail, news, RSS, even files on your local machine. Regular expression-based filtering and sorting, on arbitrary fields in the header or body of messages. Adaptive scoring for prioritizing new messages. Auto-expiry and deletion of mail that you don't need to read. Completely extensible and hackable in Lisp. And best of all, it's completely integrated with your favorite editor. ;) Honestly, the GMail interface feels really limited to me. The one thing that GMail has -- or should have -- over other mail clients is its ability to search your mail archive. But GMail's search isn't even good! It doesn't match substrings, for example. Grepping a local mail spool is infinitely more powerful.

steveklabnik 16y ago
I don't think "an emacs extension" and "a nice interface" really belong together. (Then again, I'm a vim guy...) Almost none of those features matter to me, and sound like a bunch of extra junk I don't want. I want: 1) Webmail 2) with a reasonable interface 3) and a good spam filter 4) That has a ton of space to save my emails 5) That I don't have to administer.
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- rwl 16y ago
  In your first post, you made a clear distinction between the interface and the server-side stuff. Your points 3-5 are all related to server-side stuff. With respect to those things, you can get the benefits of GMail using Gnus or any other mail client (by reading your mail over IMAP or even POP). (True, Gnus requires an initial configuration step -- maybe that counts as "administration" -- that the GMail web interface does not. But that's basically set-and-forget; it doesn't require the kind of monitoring or tweaking that running a mail server does.) As far as the interface itself goes, if GMail works for you, that's great. Personally, I want: 1) to be able to check my mail from a terminal 2) a lot of control over pre-processing of mail, especially in filters that sort messages into groups/folders/labels. I find that simple string-match filters are really limiting. 3) to be able to copy and paste code and other data into and out of my email (e.g., to create new TODO items in Org mode), without using the mouse 4) to have the option to automate tasks like (3) when they become too frequent or annoying to do by hand Different strokes, I guess. :)
  - steveklabnik 16y ago
    > Different strokes, I guess. :) Yep. :) I used to access GMail through mutt, so I'm not totally opposed to doing something like this, but the OP was talking about not wanting to use GMail for privacy reasons, so using something like gnus to access your gmail account wasn't really on the table. And 'server side stuff' is all under 'do nothing' in my original post.

by rwl 16y ago

steveklabnik 16y ago

I don't think "an emacs extension" and "a nice interface" really belong together. (Then again, I'm a vim guy...) Almost none of those features matter to me, and sound like a bunch of extra junk I don't want. I want: 1) Webmail 2) with a reasonable interface 3) and a good spam filter 4) That has a ton of space to save my emails 5) That I don't have to administer.

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rwl 16y ago
In your first post, you made a clear distinction between the interface and the server-side stuff. Your points 3-5 are all related to server-side stuff. With respect to those things, you can get the benefits of GMail using Gnus or any other mail client (by reading your mail over IMAP or even POP). (True, Gnus requires an initial configuration step -- maybe that counts as "administration" -- that the GMail web interface does not. But that's basically set-and-forget; it doesn't require the kind of monitoring or tweaking that running a mail server does.) As far as the interface itself goes, if GMail works for you, that's great. Personally, I want: 1) to be able to check my mail from a terminal 2) a lot of control over pre-processing of mail, especially in filters that sort messages into groups/folders/labels. I find that simple string-match filters are really limiting. 3) to be able to copy and paste code and other data into and out of my email (e.g., to create new TODO items in Org mode), without using the mouse 4) to have the option to automate tasks like (3) when they become too frequent or annoying to do by hand Different strokes, I guess. :)
- steveklabnik 16y ago
  > Different strokes, I guess. :) Yep. :) I used to access GMail through mutt, so I'm not totally opposed to doing something like this, but the OP was talking about not wanting to use GMail for privacy reasons, so using something like gnus to access your gmail account wasn't really on the table. And 'server side stuff' is all under 'do nothing' in my original post.