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>Once you start looking for such patterns, they become painfully apparent. Wouldn't it be great if we could help train others to be able to do that too?

dredmorbius 7y ago
It's taken me most of five decades to pick up the skill. That bodes poorly for generalised skillsets. There's a generalised rebuttal to calls for greater intelligence / education as a solution to problems: All the children aren't above average. And if your solution to some circumstance is to make them so, or pretend that they are, you are going to be having a bad time. I'm not against education. I'm against having it be the only suggested remedy. Particularly from a party with a vested interest in both deflecting responsibility and creating the problem in the first place.
- popularwarfare 7y ago
  I dont know man, taking almost 50 years to learn basic rhetoric skills that should have been taught to you during high school english seems like a knockdown argument in favor of education.
  - dredmorbius 7y ago
    I may have been a particularly poor student, subject to a particularly poor education. Signs suggest neither lagged the median by much.
    - bigfudge 7y ago
      Don’t be too hard on yourself. I get stung by the Guardian April fool story almost every year. It typically takes at least 2 paragraphs to spot what are obviously absurd stories. To me the April fool stories highlight the biggest issue with media corps... being normally-trustworthy actually makes them very powerful on the occasions when they are mistaken or misused.
      - dredmorbius 7y ago
        The April Fools stuff I typically catch. Snopes has fooled me, however: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/category/lost-legends/ https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/category/lost-legends/
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- 50656E6973 7y ago
  Seems like trying to take away or limit the first amendment rights of multi billion dollar corporations would be far more difficult than trying to implement a media literacy course in school curriculums.

dredmorbius 7y ago

It's taken me most of five decades to pick up the skill. That bodes poorly for generalised skillsets. There's a generalised rebuttal to calls for greater intelligence / education as a solution to problems: All the children aren't above average. And if your solution to some circumstance is to make them so, or pretend that they are, you are going to be having a bad time. I'm not against education. I'm against having it be the only suggested remedy. Particularly from a party with a vested interest in both deflecting responsibility and creating the problem in the first place.

popularwarfare 7y ago
I dont know man, taking almost 50 years to learn basic rhetoric skills that should have been taught to you during high school english seems like a knockdown argument in favor of education.
- dredmorbius 7y ago
  I may have been a particularly poor student, subject to a particularly poor education. Signs suggest neither lagged the median by much.
  - bigfudge 7y ago
    Don’t be too hard on yourself. I get stung by the Guardian April fool story almost every year. It typically takes at least 2 paragraphs to spot what are obviously absurd stories. To me the April fool stories highlight the biggest issue with media corps... being normally-trustworthy actually makes them very powerful on the occasions when they are mistaken or misused.
    - dredmorbius 7y ago
      The April Fools stuff I typically catch. Snopes has fooled me, however: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/category/lost-legends/ https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/category/lost-legends/
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50656E6973 7y ago
Seems like trying to take away or limit the first amendment rights of multi billion dollar corporations would be far more difficult than trying to implement a media literacy course in school curriculums.