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Tell me who your friends are and I will tell you who you are Edit: I'm not condoning or arguing against the CBP decision, just pointing out that their line of
by dmitrygr 7y ago
Tell me who your friends are and I will tell you who you are
Edit: I'm not condoning or arguing against the CBP decision, just pointing out that their line of thinking is not novel. It has been around since the times of Socrates.
- graeme 7y agoViral whatsapp messages are common in south asia. Receiving a message doesn't mean it's from a friend.
- KaoruAoiShiho 7y agoTell me what subreddits you subscribe to and I'll tell you who you are.
- dmitrygr 7y agoI'm not condoning or arguing against the CBP decision, just pointing out that their line of thinking is not novel. It has been around since the times of Socrates.
- graeme 7y agoSure. But they're bungling the heuristic. It's equivalent of seeing viagra ads in an email spam folder and accusing someone of intent to smuggle drugs.
- fortran77 7y agoExactly right. If I were planning to study in or visit another nation, I wouldn't be associating with people who want to destroy that nation. The first example, Ismail Ajjawi, was of a Lebanese man who has ties to Hezbollah. I don't visit Lebanon for a reason and I have turned down business there. That would be the respectable thing for him to have done in the United States. He's already slippery. He's a Lebanese national who mis-characterizes his identity. He was coming to work on a visa that didn't permit it. That should raise one eyebrow. The other was raised by who he associates with.
- hirako2000 7y agoWhat are you talking about? You might be associated with individuals who posted content that may appear questionable. You may have a connection of a connection on social media who wrote something questionable altogether. Where does the association end? FYI software at the border to inspect phone content simply parse the file system and copies over all files for further analysis. It also transfers all emails and more text analysis. Anything flagged by filters get shown to the operator who may be surprised to see so much crap on a visitor device.
- damnyou 7y agoNo, we do not "raise one eyebrow" because someone was born on the wrong patch of dirt. That is a shameful and disgusting approach for the "shining city on a hill" to take.
- fortran77 7y agoIf he were asking for asylum because his life was in danger--that's when we're the "shining city on a hill". And of course we should carefully evaluate those sorts of claims and try to do the correct and just things. But that's not the case here, is it?
- damnyou 7y agoIt doesn't matter — it is so obviously wrong to discriminate based on country of origin that I can't even believe we're having this discussion. (And yes, I'm aware that consular posts do it all the time, issuing fewer visas to people from the wrong countries. States suck, and state violence sucks.)
- daveFNbuck 7y agoSo if someone responds to your comment with something objectionable, you'll be ok with people using that to restrict your rights and privileges?
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- tracer4201 7y agoI have friends who are Indian, Hispanic, white, black, Muslim, and Jewish. Some of them despise the President. One feels pretty strongly against Brexit. Another one is a staunch defender of Palestinians and believes Netanyahu is a crook who will continue annexing settlements in the West Bank to appease hardliners in order to stay in power. What does any of this say about whether I should be allowed in the US?
- rjsw 7y agoYou sound like a candidate for a drone strike /s.
- iforgotpassword 7y agoA lot of (young) people seem to quickly add people to their contacts or friend list after barely having spent time together. And those usually never get removed as most apps conveniently hide infrequently used contacts in the default view.
- swiley 7y agoWhat’s the alternative to that? Not ever getting to know anyone? The social advice older people tend give younger people in the US is often extremely self destructive and isolating.
- iforgotpassword 7y agoWell my point was actually just that because someone is on your friends list on facebook doesn't actually mean you had any interaction with them in the last decade or even remember who that is, let alone sympathize with anything they post to their timeline. But to answer your question: How about just not adding everyone you meet at a party at 3 am to your Facebook while drunk? I don't see how this prevents you from meeting people IRL. People managed to get to know each other before social media just fine. Bonus chatter: When I was almost done with college I had a new flat mate who just started his bachelor's and joined him once or twice when he went out. Usually during college time you don't care about or notice age that much. But suddenly I was surrounded by a bunch of 19 year old freshmen at a BBQ and everyone was constantly checking their phones and messaging people who weren't there. Suddenly an age gap of 6 years that was never an issue before made me feel like a freaking grandpa.