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No offense but > I avoid all processed sugar (no cola or any refined sugar products), I avoid all dairy, and of course, avoid meat. Sounds like it has a lot m
by milch 7y ago
No offense but
> I avoid all processed sugar (no cola or any refined sugar products), I avoid all dairy, and of course, avoid meat.
Sounds like it has a lot more to do with your results than
> So I made a total lifestyle change to a 16/8 intermittent fast (16 hours water only, 8-hour feeding window)
Also, if you were counting your calories before and after this transition, you likely missed or underestimated the calories before. I do the same 16/8 window (never been a breakfast person anyways) and have no problem maintaining my weight at about 2.5k calories a day
- jddj 7y agoI'm in the same boat. I don't stick to it extremely strictly, and the window moves around a bit but generally I follow 16/8 too and haven't noticed much of change in body fat (but I don't carry much anyway). The reason I stuck with it was that, as someone who wasn't ever a breakfast person either, I don't have the stomach discomfort / bloating anymore which a carb-heavy breakfast would give me. For me the nicest part about IF becoming trendy is that I don't feel that slight pang of guilt anymore which I used to feel when skipping breakfast.
- agumonkey 7y agoit's probably slightly coupled though, avoiding cravings put your mind into a different consumption mode. When you didn't eat for that long, you won't go for a chocolate bar, you'll aim at actual proteins.
- icu 7y agoNo offence taken :-) I'm not a professional, and I didn't track anything except my body measurements and weight during this process so I don't know exactly where all the results came from. I wasn't chugging bottles of Coca-Cola, but I was having processed sugar in my multiple cups of coffee every day. As for calorie counting, my research indicated that calorie counting is a myth (see The Obesity Code by Dr. Jason Fung). Certainly, I always struggled with a calorie-restricted diet, so I knew that if I always felt hungry, anything I did wouldn't work. I know it sounds odd but during the 16 hours I am fasting, I just don't feel that hungry. If I feel a little hungry I just drink some water and I feel fine. I think the key was satisfying the ghrelin by eating as much as I liked during my 8-hour feeding window. I know it sounds crazy that you can eat as much as you like and still loose weight but it happened.
- tozeur 7y agoEnergy in, energy out. You lost weight because your ate less than you burned, full stop. IF is just a way to curb hunger until later in the day, so you effectively take in less calories than you normally would.
- icu 7y agoRespectfully you are coming from a certain frame. There is always the possibility that other frames exist that may be a more accurate representation of reality. If you are open, check out The Obesity Code by Dr. Jason Fung.
- Retric 7y agoConservation of energy still applies. Weight management has a strong mental component, but only because of the current abundance of calories. PS: And yes we are included poop calories. That’s how olestra and artificial sweeteners work.
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- peripitea 7y agoEnergy in/out, at least in the sense most people and your grandparent refer to, can be wrong without violating conservation of energy. E.g. if you poop out food from which not all calories have been used.
- wtallis 7y agoThe solution to this issue is not to start claiming things in violation of thermodynamics. Instead you should call attention to the fact that nutrition labels do not always accurately count the number of bioavailable calories ("calories in"), and that unusual circumstances can drastically change an individual's ability to extract energy from their diet. Rejecting "calories in = calories out" is a distraction from the real challenges, and has the side effect of making you sound much less scientifically credible. Edit: see this comment for an example of reasonable discussion that doesn't oversimplify to the point of contradicting basic science: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20860678 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20860678
- liamcardenas 7y agoEveryone is different but I was formerly obese and doing a 7 hour fasting window in the morning (7am-2pm) I dropped into a healthy BMI shockingly fast. I ate meat, processed sugar, and dairy throughout. In the past I tried cutting those things out (except meat) and I struggled with weight loss. The one other factor that probably played a role is that I cut out restaurants.
- cyphar 7y ago> The one other factor that probably played a role is that I cut out restaurants. You would be shocked how many calories restaurant food has (usually >1k calories in a single dish -- no matter what kind of restaurant -- and probably more in the US). Personally, I would've assumed this is the more likely primary factor for your weight loss (combined with the fact you probably eat less food overall because you only have two meals when doing IF). You could try going to restaurants again for a few weeks and see if you start gaining weight again. But, if it works for you -- it works for you.
- Polyisoprene 7y agoDefinitely. Coming home after traveling to the US for more than few days means constant hunger and snack cravings for a week or so. The last few times I’ve been trying to limit the unnecessary sugars from sodas and other sugar rich food since you get so much more sugar than in Europe in the regular restaurant food.
- liamcardenas 7y agoTo be clear, I have tried going to restaurants both before and after I lost a majority of my weight and I still lost weight but not as rapidly. It appears as though cutting out restaurants made a difference but it’s also easy to underestimate the power of having a morning-based feeding window. People are more insulin sensitive in the morning and have reduced appetite (hence everyone saying “IF is easy, it’s so easy to skip breakfast”).
- Draiken 7y agoI always tell my wife that the easiest way to get healthy is to become poor. No more restaurants and you're golden. Jokes aside, I feel we all underestimate how much eating out and/or socially forces you to eat more than necessary. Personally when we're cooking, we rarely go overboard. When you eat out, it's so easy to eat more than what you need.