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There’s nothing wrong with eating chicken and other lean meats on a daily basis, and based on the summary of your daily eating, you could probably benefit from

There’s nothing wrong with eating chicken and other lean meats on a daily basis, and based on the summary of your daily eating, you could probably benefit from the complete amino acids the meat gives you.

icu 7y ago
Sure, do whatever is right for you. My research into the meat industry indicated that I was actually consuming a lot of stuff along with the meat that just isn't good for you. Sure you can go fully organic, free-range etc, but the meat we eat today is nothing like when we were hunter-gatherers. In those times we ate wild animals that lived free and healthy. As far as I can tell, it is impossible to get that level quality of meat at your local supermarket.
- newnewpdro 7y ago
  Elsewhere you said you occasionally eat fish for the omega fatty acids, what kind of fish? There's been a number of reports describing farmed fish as some of the most toxic food sources on the planet. It's definitely changed my attitude towards defaulting to a fish option at restaurants where its provenance is unknown or at best ambiguous. My goto has become canned wild sardines in water, consumed similarly for omegas in an otherwise mostly plant-based paleo-like diet.
  - icu 7y ago
    My prio list is as follows: Salmon > mackerel > sardines > herring > trout. I love salmon, but any of the above will do. I also switch it up for variety. Honourable mention is shrimp, which only has 1/4 the Omega of salmon, but is usually the easy option at BBQs (and avoids the annoying conversations about how not eating meat isn't manly). I make sure I go for wild fish, and also buy it fresh (never in packaging unless I'm absolutely desperate).
andy_ppp 7y ago
Apart from the environmental impacts right?
- spodek 7y ago
  And the chickens' perspective, which matters to many people. And the workers' perspective depending on the source of the chickens.
- okr 7y ago
  You mean growing soy in the area of the rain forest? (scnr)
- deleted 7y ago
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- bluedevil2k 7y ago
  Everything you do on Earth has an environmental impact. You think your veggies are collected and sorted and shipped to stores without impacting the Earth at all? Sometimes you gotta pick your battles and I think eating chicken is pretty low on the list of bad things we’re doing to the environment.
artimaeis 7y ago
There's no amino acid provided by meats that you can't get from plants. Soy is a complete protein. https://www.aafp.org/afp/2009/0101/p43.html https://www.aafp.org/afp/2009/0101/p43.html https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19145965 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19145965 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Complete_protein https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Complete_protein Now, to be fair, soy _does_ have a low level of tryptophan. Leafy greens are the best way to boost that, if that's your concern.
- dbcurtis 7y ago
  Soy also needs to be avoided by people with thyroid problems.
  - artimaeis 7y ago
    Sure, there's also a fair number of people with allergies to soy. It's not the only complete protein from the plant world though. There's also: * Quinoa * Buckwheat * Hemp & Chia seed * Spirulina * Mycoprotein
- bluedevil2k 7y ago
  Not to mention the estrogen effects on the male body caused by soy. (Yes, the studies say it doesn’t affect testosterone levels of men, but men also need a certain level of estrogen to be healthy and too much..not good)
  - artimaeis 7y ago
    The studies show it doesn't affect testosterone levels because the phytoestrogens in soy for the most part don't react with estrogen receptors to trigger a response from your body (at least not when going through normal digestive mechanisms). The amount of phytoestrogens you consume has no causal relation to the amount of estrogen in your hormone system.

icu 7y ago

Sure, do whatever is right for you. My research into the meat industry indicated that I was actually consuming a lot of stuff along with the meat that just isn't good for you. Sure you can go fully organic, free-range etc, but the meat we eat today is nothing like when we were hunter-gatherers. In those times we ate wild animals that lived free and healthy. As far as I can tell, it is impossible to get that level quality of meat at your local supermarket.

newnewpdro 7y ago
Elsewhere you said you occasionally eat fish for the omega fatty acids, what kind of fish? There's been a number of reports describing farmed fish as some of the most toxic food sources on the planet. It's definitely changed my attitude towards defaulting to a fish option at restaurants where its provenance is unknown or at best ambiguous. My goto has become canned wild sardines in water, consumed similarly for omegas in an otherwise mostly plant-based paleo-like diet.
- icu 7y ago
  My prio list is as follows: Salmon > mackerel > sardines > herring > trout. I love salmon, but any of the above will do. I also switch it up for variety. Honourable mention is shrimp, which only has 1/4 the Omega of salmon, but is usually the easy option at BBQs (and avoids the annoying conversations about how not eating meat isn't manly). I make sure I go for wild fish, and also buy it fresh (never in packaging unless I'm absolutely desperate).

andy_ppp 7y ago

Apart from the environmental impacts right?

spodek 7y ago
And the chickens' perspective, which matters to many people. And the workers' perspective depending on the source of the chickens.
okr 7y ago
You mean growing soy in the area of the rain forest? (scnr)
deleted 7y ago
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bluedevil2k 7y ago
Everything you do on Earth has an environmental impact. You think your veggies are collected and sorted and shipped to stores without impacting the Earth at all? Sometimes you gotta pick your battles and I think eating chicken is pretty low on the list of bad things we’re doing to the environment.

artimaeis 7y ago

There's no amino acid provided by meats that you can't get from plants. Soy is a complete protein. https://www.aafp.org/afp/2009/0101/p43.html https://www.aafp.org/afp/2009/0101/p43.html https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19145965 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19145965 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Complete_protein https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Complete_protein Now, to be fair, soy _does_ have a low level of tryptophan. Leafy greens are the best way to boost that, if that's your concern.

dbcurtis 7y ago
Soy also needs to be avoided by people with thyroid problems.
- artimaeis 7y ago
  Sure, there's also a fair number of people with allergies to soy. It's not the only complete protein from the plant world though. There's also: * Quinoa * Buckwheat * Hemp & Chia seed * Spirulina * Mycoprotein
bluedevil2k 7y ago
Not to mention the estrogen effects on the male body caused by soy. (Yes, the studies say it doesn’t affect testosterone levels of men, but men also need a certain level of estrogen to be healthy and too much..not good)
- artimaeis 7y ago
  The studies show it doesn't affect testosterone levels because the phytoestrogens in soy for the most part don't react with estrogen receptors to trigger a response from your body (at least not when going through normal digestive mechanisms). The amount of phytoestrogens you consume has no causal relation to the amount of estrogen in your hormone system.