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Create FreeBSD Current OpenStack Image on OVH Public Cloud

79 points by fredericalix 7y ago

eatonphil 7y ago
Similar story on Linode [0]. [0] https://www.linode.com/docs/tools-reference/custom-kernels-distros/install-freebsd-on-linode/ https://www.linode.com/docs/tools-reference/custom-kernels-d...
- fredericalix 7y ago
  Really ???!!! With a cloud-init who run on FreeBSD>11 ??? Read my post before write your comment please. I was totally honest why and how I did it ! After is it very easy to integrate it under CI/CD system to update image.
tryauuum 7y ago
(i think) you could use virt-sparsify instead of qemu-img to make final image even smaller
- kuzko_topia 7y ago
  You can, we do this to reduce instance creation time. Though doing this by hand is tedious, that's nothing a good CI pipeline couldn't help with
privateSFacct 7y ago
Is the OpenStack story improved from a few years ago? Experience is mostly AWS - I'm up and running very quickly on AWS but 2+ years ago openstack was kind of a fight.
- priansh 7y ago
  IIRC it has improved a lot in usability, whereas AWS just gets more and more annoying to use. There are also tons of guides for quick migrations: https://www.stratoscale.com/blog/compute/how-to-automate-the-export-of-aws-ec2-to-your-openstack-cloud/ https://www.stratoscale.com/blog/compute/how-to-automate-the...
- timClicks 7y ago
  Deployment of OpenStack or deploying to OpenStack? If you're looking at deploying openstack to on-prem hardward, Juju is a proven ally here: https://youtu.be/bHKiKnlKk_k https://youtu.be/bHKiKnlKk_k (Deploying OpenStack with Juju and MAAS) Disclaimer: on the Juju team
- mugsie 7y ago
  I am biased[1], but the OpenStack story is pretty good. Running it is always going to be more than "apt install openstack" - but there has been pretty good improvements in installers. Juju (linked below), OpenStack-Ansible, or openstack helm all make deployment possible. The end user story has been pretty consistent for a while, with additions for newer features, and high performance hardware always in the pipeline. A lot of the horror stories from the early days were people expecting free, fire and forget ESXi - which it is not. 1 - I have been a project team lead on one of the sub projects for ~ 4 years, and more recently sit on the Technical Committee.
kyledrake 7y ago
There's also some providers that come with freebsd support out of the box, if you want a less complex setup path https://www.vultr.com/servers/freebsd https://www.vultr.com/servers/freebsd
- fredericalix 7y ago
  I know very well vultr but I prefer OVH. Their infra are in France and no US Cloud Act.
- eatonphil 7y ago
  Digital Ocean supports FreeBSD too. But it's good to document these manual steps so you can port the effort to NetBSD, OpenBSD, SmartOS, etc. (I've had all those run on Linode).
  - i_feel_great 7y ago
    You don't happen to have documented these at all by chance? I am particularly interested in NetBSD.
    - eatonphil 7y ago
      It's the exact same steps as the guide for FreeBSD [0] but you do it with a NetBSD install image instead. I maintained an installer [1] for these systems a while ago but the images may not be available anymore, not sure. [0] https://www.linode.com/docs/tools-reference/custom-kernels-distros/install-freebsd-on-linode/ https://www.linode.com/docs/tools-reference/custom-kernels-d... [1] https://github.com/eatonphil/linode_deploy_experimental https://github.com/eatonphil/linode_deploy_experimental
sebcat 7y ago
It's possible to build FreeBSD images for amd64 with nginx and a small but fairly complete base build at about 70 MB by just tweaking src.conf and a MINIMAL kernel with virtio built in. I do this for virtualization on DO, Vultr and my own bhyve machine. YMMV.

79 points by fredericalix 7y ago

Similar story on Linode [0]. [0] https://www.linode.com/docs/tools-reference/custom-kernels-distros/install-freebsd-on-linode/ https://www.linode.com/docs/tools-reference/custom-kernels-d...

fredericalix 7y ago
Really ???!!! With a cloud-init who run on FreeBSD>11 ??? Read my post before write your comment please. I was totally honest why and how I did it ! After is it very easy to integrate it under CI/CD system to update image.

tryauuum 7y ago

(i think) you could use virt-sparsify instead of qemu-img to make final image even smaller

kuzko_topia 7y ago
You can, we do this to reduce instance creation time. Though doing this by hand is tedious, that's nothing a good CI pipeline couldn't help with

privateSFacct 7y ago

Is the OpenStack story improved from a few years ago? Experience is mostly AWS - I'm up and running very quickly on AWS but 2+ years ago openstack was kind of a fight.

priansh 7y ago
IIRC it has improved a lot in usability, whereas AWS just gets more and more annoying to use. There are also tons of guides for quick migrations: https://www.stratoscale.com/blog/compute/how-to-automate-the-export-of-aws-ec2-to-your-openstack-cloud/ https://www.stratoscale.com/blog/compute/how-to-automate-the...
timClicks 7y ago
Deployment of OpenStack or deploying to OpenStack? If you're looking at deploying openstack to on-prem hardward, Juju is a proven ally here: https://youtu.be/bHKiKnlKk_k https://youtu.be/bHKiKnlKk_k (Deploying OpenStack with Juju and MAAS) Disclaimer: on the Juju team
mugsie 7y ago
I am biased[1], but the OpenStack story is pretty good. Running it is always going to be more than "apt install openstack" - but there has been pretty good improvements in installers. Juju (linked below), OpenStack-Ansible, or openstack helm all make deployment possible. The end user story has been pretty consistent for a while, with additions for newer features, and high performance hardware always in the pipeline. A lot of the horror stories from the early days were people expecting free, fire and forget ESXi - which it is not. 1 - I have been a project team lead on one of the sub projects for ~ 4 years, and more recently sit on the Technical Committee.

kyledrake 7y ago

There's also some providers that come with freebsd support out of the box, if you want a less complex setup path https://www.vultr.com/servers/freebsd https://www.vultr.com/servers/freebsd

fredericalix 7y ago
I know very well vultr but I prefer OVH. Their infra are in France and no US Cloud Act.
eatonphil 7y ago
Digital Ocean supports FreeBSD too. But it's good to document these manual steps so you can port the effort to NetBSD, OpenBSD, SmartOS, etc. (I've had all those run on Linode).
- i_feel_great 7y ago
  You don't happen to have documented these at all by chance? I am particularly interested in NetBSD.
  - eatonphil 7y ago
    It's the exact same steps as the guide for FreeBSD [0] but you do it with a NetBSD install image instead. I maintained an installer [1] for these systems a while ago but the images may not be available anymore, not sure. [0] https://www.linode.com/docs/tools-reference/custom-kernels-distros/install-freebsd-on-linode/ https://www.linode.com/docs/tools-reference/custom-kernels-d... [1] https://github.com/eatonphil/linode_deploy_experimental https://github.com/eatonphil/linode_deploy_experimental

sebcat 7y ago

It's possible to build FreeBSD images for amd64 with nginx and a small but fairly complete base build at about 70 MB by just tweaking src.conf and a MINIMAL kernel with virtio built in. I do this for virtualization on DO, Vultr and my own bhyve machine. YMMV.