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I went Fridge shopping yesterday at Home Depot and only 2 out of the 20 models we looked at had Touchscreens.

by wil421 7y ago

reaperducer 7y ago
at Home Depot You just answered your own question right there.
- wil421 7y ago
  If I look at Best Buy and Lowe’s it’s pretty much the same. Samsung and LG have more useless features than any of the others combined.
- maxerickson 7y ago
  Can you explain? They aren't a discount retailer or anything like that, which you seem to be implying.
amalter 7y ago
Another sample point and a different concern... We just bought a new refrigerator this weekend, replacing the $3500 2011 Bosch that came with the apartment. The Bosch burned out the compressor’s ECU - a $350 part that with labor would have been an $800 repair. We comparison shopped all the appliance stores in NYC and ended up with a $2k Samsung side by side (not my favorite brand, but it fit in our tight galley kitchen) PC Richard had only a single model with a touchscreen on the floor (Samsung French door). Best Buy and Home Depot had maybe one more from LG. So on one hand, the concern that every refrigerator will have a useless touchscreen seems unfounded. But... I was reading through the manual and was surprised to find instructions for connecting the appliance to my wifi. (MAC address available two hex digits at a time flashed through the temperature gauges) Ostensibly this is to provide a channel for electric demand response (they even documented the api). It also connects up with Samsung’s SmartHome ecosystem (why??) I have no doubt there is a full Android stack hidden what appeared to be a normal “dumb appliance”. These hidden smart appliances are going to be great attack surfaces. I’m sure soon enough they’ll automate the wifi connection by making a back channel the nearest lightbulb or something. Of course who’s following CVEs on their mesh connected toaster?
- groovylick 7y ago
  You probably could have found the control board for sale online for half that cost and replaced it yourself. It's no more that a couple plugs, refrigerator repair is very over priced unless they have to tinker with the refrigerant.
- xxpor 7y ago
  Meanwhile my French door fridge from 1992 runs fine and does the one thing I care about: keeps food cold.
  - DaiPlusPlus 7y ago
    What fridge is that? I don't remember seeing true french-door fridges in the 1990s (or do you mean a side-by-side?)

I went Fridge shopping yesterday at Home Depot and only 2 out of the 20 models we looked at had Touchscreens.

by wil421 7y ago

I went Fridge shopping yesterday at Home Depot and only 2 out of the 20 models we looked at had Touchscreens.

reaperducer 7y ago

at Home Depot You just answered your own question right there.

wil421 7y ago
If I look at Best Buy and Lowe’s it’s pretty much the same. Samsung and LG have more useless features than any of the others combined.
maxerickson 7y ago
Can you explain? They aren't a discount retailer or anything like that, which you seem to be implying.

amalter 7y ago

Another sample point and a different concern... We just bought a new refrigerator this weekend, replacing the $3500 2011 Bosch that came with the apartment. The Bosch burned out the compressor’s ECU - a $350 part that with labor would have been an $800 repair. We comparison shopped all the appliance stores in NYC and ended up with a $2k Samsung side by side (not my favorite brand, but it fit in our tight galley kitchen) PC Richard had only a single model with a touchscreen on the floor (Samsung French door). Best Buy and Home Depot had maybe one more from LG. So on one hand, the concern that every refrigerator will have a useless touchscreen seems unfounded. But... I was reading through the manual and was surprised to find instructions for connecting the appliance to my wifi. (MAC address available two hex digits at a time flashed through the temperature gauges) Ostensibly this is to provide a channel for electric demand response (they even documented the api). It also connects up with Samsung’s SmartHome ecosystem (why??) I have no doubt there is a full Android stack hidden what appeared to be a normal “dumb appliance”. These hidden smart appliances are going to be great attack surfaces. I’m sure soon enough they’ll automate the wifi connection by making a back channel the nearest lightbulb or something. Of course who’s following CVEs on their mesh connected toaster?

groovylick 7y ago
You probably could have found the control board for sale online for half that cost and replaced it yourself. It's no more that a couple plugs, refrigerator repair is very over priced unless they have to tinker with the refrigerant.
xxpor 7y ago
Meanwhile my French door fridge from 1992 runs fine and does the one thing I care about: keeps food cold.
- DaiPlusPlus 7y ago
  What fridge is that? I don't remember seeing true french-door fridges in the 1990s (or do you mean a side-by-side?)