>I’m always amused when the frameworks being used advertise things like “We make coding fun!” I understand where they're coming from having dealt with a few le

>I’m always amused when the frameworks being used advertise things like “We make coding fun!” I understand where they're coming from having dealt with a few legacy frameworkless spaghetti code bases that have no documentation. Give me bad code to maintain in a known framework over bad code without a framework anyday. Adding features and debugging in those conditions are no fun at all.