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I'm pretty sure there is a lot of people who is interested to know if this is someone's fault, and I don't think it has anything to do with how media covers thi

I'm pretty sure there is a lot of people who is interested to know if this is someone's fault, and I don't think it has anything to do with how media covers this issues. I think it's a good thing, in fact. This failure may be within acceptable parameters and it may be simply meaningless to try to find someone truly responsible for it. But you seem to be unreasonably reluctant to believe that maybe it's not. I understand that it's interesting to analyze what happened from a more technical perspective, but of course a proper investigation has to be conducted to find the responsible if there happens to be one (or more).

mytailorisrich 7y ago
> But you seem to be unreasonably reluctant to believe that maybe it's not He seems to be working for National Grid or at least in the field so might be defending his own here or taking my comments personally.
- DanBC 7y ago
  Several people in this thread have said that you are wrong to place blame entirely on the grid. It's unlikely that they all work for power distribution companies.
  - mytailorisrich 7y ago
    I have never placed blame entirely on the grid... Can we not lower ourselves into this sort of sordid methods of trying to put words into others' mouths?
- Zenst 7y ago
  I do not work for the grid and last involvment in that area was working for Eastern Electricity Board as an analyst/programmer upon a COBOL DPS7 mainframe circa first half of the 80's and worked upon a new plant management system mostly (distribution level so upto attaching to the main grid). I've had no involvement in that industry since then. I have also worked for the Department Of Health, RAND, and numerous other industries and involvement. I have no axe to grind. Hope that adds some clarity.
- dang 7y ago
  Please don't cross into personal attack here. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
Zenst 7y ago
"But you seem to be unreasonably reluctant to believe that maybe it's not." WE have covered many area's, trains, planes and hospitals (maybe a movie there). Sure I'd rather focus on the technical aspects and not presume this was something totally avoidable. Rather look at each nuance instead of the binary blame game. Which is not clear cut. After all - we don't know what SLA's supply contracts are in place now do we. But nothing is ever 100%. But it is possible to argue both sides of the coin and without ALL the details, go around in circles. If we really want to blame anybody - why not just blame God for allowing it to happen and move on. Leave it to the report, which will happen into the incident and associated fallout to cover all that and discuss any blame then, once all the facts are in. But remember - we do not know what the SLA levels are, so all those fallouts take on a whole new perspective of blame. Equally, you can have a problem and nobody is to blame - though God works for those, at least "Act of God" is actually used in insurance contracts (yes worked in that field as well disclaimer, though late 80's early 90's). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Act_of_God https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Act_of_God

mytailorisrich 7y ago

> But you seem to be unreasonably reluctant to believe that maybe it's not He seems to be working for National Grid or at least in the field so might be defending his own here or taking my comments personally.

DanBC 7y ago
Several people in this thread have said that you are wrong to place blame entirely on the grid. It's unlikely that they all work for power distribution companies.
- mytailorisrich 7y ago
  I have never placed blame entirely on the grid... Can we not lower ourselves into this sort of sordid methods of trying to put words into others' mouths?
Zenst 7y ago
I do not work for the grid and last involvment in that area was working for Eastern Electricity Board as an analyst/programmer upon a COBOL DPS7 mainframe circa first half of the 80's and worked upon a new plant management system mostly (distribution level so upto attaching to the main grid). I've had no involvement in that industry since then. I have also worked for the Department Of Health, RAND, and numerous other industries and involvement. I have no axe to grind. Hope that adds some clarity.
dang 7y ago
Please don't cross into personal attack here. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Zenst 7y ago

"But you seem to be unreasonably reluctant to believe that maybe it's not." WE have covered many area's, trains, planes and hospitals (maybe a movie there). Sure I'd rather focus on the technical aspects and not presume this was something totally avoidable. Rather look at each nuance instead of the binary blame game. Which is not clear cut. After all - we don't know what SLA's supply contracts are in place now do we. But nothing is ever 100%. But it is possible to argue both sides of the coin and without ALL the details, go around in circles. If we really want to blame anybody - why not just blame God for allowing it to happen and move on. Leave it to the report, which will happen into the incident and associated fallout to cover all that and discuss any blame then, once all the facts are in. But remember - we do not know what the SLA levels are, so all those fallouts take on a whole new perspective of blame. Equally, you can have a problem and nobody is to blame - though God works for those, at least "Act of God" is actually used in insurance contracts (yes worked in that field as well disclaimer, though late 80's early 90's). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Act_of_God https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Act_of_God