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It has to freaking stop crashing first. And stop freezing my computer with just 20 tabs open (for 32gb of ram). And complete their password manager. And impleme

It has to freaking stop crashing first. And stop freezing my computer with just 20 tabs open (for 32gb of ram). And complete their password manager. And implement recent standards to make apps work. And... Yeah, I'm still using it instead of Chrome just because I want to depend less on Google, but dammit Chrome is better.

ajdlinux 7y ago
It has to stop taking 3 times as long to load Slack, or crashing/freezing when I'm using WebEx. Yes, the applications bear a lot of blame here, but they are the applications I am stuck with for business use.
- jrugk 7y ago
  >the applications bear a lot of blame here ...or Firefox simply has some performance problems. Touching the DOM in Firefox is a terrible bottleneck, for example
  - bscphil 7y ago
    > Touching the DOM in Firefox is a terrible bottleneck, for example Yep. Speedometer 2.0 shows this pretty well. It's 25% faster in Chromium for me on desktop, and over 100% faster! in mobile Chrome than Firefox for Android. Mozilla have done a remarkable job of catching up on raw javascript engine performance and the speed of the renderer, but they have a ways to go yet in other areas, probably none more so than bringing recent improvements to mobile.
duncanawoods 7y ago
I can't recall it ever crashing in the past year and I use it all day on multiple computers including nix, macos and windows.
- pacavaca 7y ago
  I find it crashed every other morning when I wake up my mac
  - yoasif_ 7y ago
    Probably this bug - https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1201401 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1201401 I never saw it in High Sierra, but after upgrading to Mojave last week, I see it once in a while after resuming from sleep.
- Lev1a 7y ago
  At my university the sysadmins have done something fucky with the W10 image, that makes it so Firefox crashes 30s-5mins after launching it. Chrome and Edge are somehow completely fine and I've never encountered this crashing issue on any system outside of those PC labs.
dsissitka 7y ago
> And implement recent standards... And maybe even some not so recent standards. Chrome has an extremely novel feature: I can use my media keys... ...to control the playback of my media. Why didn't anyone think of that before? :)
- garaetjjte 7y ago
  Uh? Media keys are supposed to control system volume.
  - tambre 7y ago
    Volume controls aren't the only type of media keys. There's also pause, backwards, forwards and others. Most of them don't make much sense in the context of the OS, so applications need custom handling for them.

ajdlinux 7y ago

It has to stop taking 3 times as long to load Slack, or crashing/freezing when I'm using WebEx. Yes, the applications bear a lot of blame here, but they are the applications I am stuck with for business use.

jrugk 7y ago
>the applications bear a lot of blame here ...or Firefox simply has some performance problems. Touching the DOM in Firefox is a terrible bottleneck, for example
- bscphil 7y ago
  > Touching the DOM in Firefox is a terrible bottleneck, for example Yep. Speedometer 2.0 shows this pretty well. It's 25% faster in Chromium for me on desktop, and over 100% faster! in mobile Chrome than Firefox for Android. Mozilla have done a remarkable job of catching up on raw javascript engine performance and the speed of the renderer, but they have a ways to go yet in other areas, probably none more so than bringing recent improvements to mobile.

duncanawoods 7y ago

I can't recall it ever crashing in the past year and I use it all day on multiple computers including nix, macos and windows.

pacavaca 7y ago
I find it crashed every other morning when I wake up my mac
- yoasif_ 7y ago
  Probably this bug - https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1201401 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1201401 I never saw it in High Sierra, but after upgrading to Mojave last week, I see it once in a while after resuming from sleep.
Lev1a 7y ago
At my university the sysadmins have done something fucky with the W10 image, that makes it so Firefox crashes 30s-5mins after launching it. Chrome and Edge are somehow completely fine and I've never encountered this crashing issue on any system outside of those PC labs.

dsissitka 7y ago

> And implement recent standards... And maybe even some not so recent standards. Chrome has an extremely novel feature: I can use my media keys... ...to control the playback of my media. Why didn't anyone think of that before? :)

garaetjjte 7y ago
Uh? Media keys are supposed to control system volume.
- tambre 7y ago
  Volume controls aren't the only type of media keys. There's also pause, backwards, forwards and others. Most of them don't make much sense in the context of the OS, so applications need custom handling for them.