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Two things has me almost dropping firefox and going over to chrome: - It still doesn't remember my credit card details, and is generally worse at filling out f

Two things has me almost dropping firefox and going over to chrome: - It still doesn't remember my credit card details, and is generally worse at filling out forms. - On mobile, I regularly experience that the cookie jar gets broken somehow and all my logins are broken which will work again by closing the browser down and starting it again. The only think keeping me on Fx is a sense of ethics, the same reason I don't eat meat even though I love it.

tasty_freeze 7y ago
FF used to remember and autofill CC information, but about 10 years ago they removed it for security reasons. But this blog post from last 2017 says they were adding the option to securely store and autofill CC information: https://blog.mozilla.org/firefox/online-shopping-autofill-credit-card-info-safely-firefox/ https://blog.mozilla.org/firefox/online-shopping-autofill-cr... However, the feature is still not available, probably because of nagging security worries. Apparently it can be enabled in a nightly build if you edit a config: option: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Firefox/Features/Form_Autofill https://wiki.mozilla.org/Firefox/Features/Form_Autofill
eitland 7y ago
> It still doesn't remember my credit card details, and is generally worse at filling out forms. I think BitWarden does. BitWarden is also open source and allows you to use your own backend if you want.
0xdeadb00f 7y ago
> It still doesn't remember my credit card details (Slightly off topic) Personally, I don't get this. I wouldn't store my credit card, even encrypted, on any device if I could manage not to. It seems way too convenient for me that my personal+sensitive info is just a click away from being put into a form. I get that it's stored securely but it still doesn't sit right.
idoubtit 7y ago
> The only think keeping me on Fx is a sense of ethics So do I. At least I still use Firefox as my secondary browser. My own main recriminations: - The download manager is awful. I sometimes download several times a file because I didn't see it started. And I could describe half a dozen bugs with it. For example, under some conditions, the size of a download is replaced by the sum of the previously downloaded files (4GB/4.1GB instead of 0/100MB + 4GB old files). - about:config is broken. When I open the settings for power users in Chromium, each option has a short description. With Firefox, the documentation is not linked to the setting, it's in a wiki or blog posts. - I need an extension to confirm on quit. I sometimes press Ctrl-q when I intended Ctrl-w. The config browser.showQuitWarning and browser.warnOnQuit have no effect. I had to read FF's source code to understand it was intentional: the code had evolved (IMHO, in a bad way), the doc had not. - Local extensions are removed when FF stops. I heard that this is not the case with "developer FF", but I don't want to drop the OS packaging of ESR FF. And that feature is already in Chromium based browsers. I don't even know what devFF is, though I've heard it's based on a FF beta branch. These are mostly not problems for the main target of FF. My parents main problem were that an update once replaced their custom starting page (tailor made) with the default one (recently visited sites + ads). They also had a few UI hard times, but these were either fixed by FF (adding a link to the starting page was impossible without reading a doc) or my parents got used to them.
- Vinnl 7y ago
  > - I need an extension to confirm on quit. I sometimes press Ctrl-q when I intended Ctrl-w. The config browser.showQuitWarning and browser.warnOnQuit have no effect. I had to read FF's source code to understand it was intentional: the code had evolved (IMHO, in a bad way), the doc had not. That's odd; I'm running stable Firefox, and the second option in my Preferences is "Warn you when quitting the browser" - and it does what it says, for me, without an extension.
human20190310 7y ago
I'm in a similar boat. Although I prefer Firefox in general, I was surprised to see how much better Chrome's performance was when doing development on a super-low-spec "travel laptop".

tasty_freeze 7y ago

FF used to remember and autofill CC information, but about 10 years ago they removed it for security reasons. But this blog post from last 2017 says they were adding the option to securely store and autofill CC information: https://blog.mozilla.org/firefox/online-shopping-autofill-credit-card-info-safely-firefox/ https://blog.mozilla.org/firefox/online-shopping-autofill-cr... However, the feature is still not available, probably because of nagging security worries. Apparently it can be enabled in a nightly build if you edit a config: option: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Firefox/Features/Form_Autofill https://wiki.mozilla.org/Firefox/Features/Form_Autofill

eitland 7y ago

> It still doesn't remember my credit card details, and is generally worse at filling out forms. I think BitWarden does. BitWarden is also open source and allows you to use your own backend if you want.

0xdeadb00f 7y ago

> It still doesn't remember my credit card details (Slightly off topic) Personally, I don't get this. I wouldn't store my credit card, even encrypted, on any device if I could manage not to. It seems way too convenient for me that my personal+sensitive info is just a click away from being put into a form. I get that it's stored securely but it still doesn't sit right.

idoubtit 7y ago

> The only think keeping me on Fx is a sense of ethics So do I. At least I still use Firefox as my secondary browser. My own main recriminations: - The download manager is awful. I sometimes download several times a file because I didn't see it started. And I could describe half a dozen bugs with it. For example, under some conditions, the size of a download is replaced by the sum of the previously downloaded files (4GB/4.1GB instead of 0/100MB + 4GB old files). - about:config is broken. When I open the settings for power users in Chromium, each option has a short description. With Firefox, the documentation is not linked to the setting, it's in a wiki or blog posts. - I need an extension to confirm on quit. I sometimes press Ctrl-q when I intended Ctrl-w. The config browser.showQuitWarning and browser.warnOnQuit have no effect. I had to read FF's source code to understand it was intentional: the code had evolved (IMHO, in a bad way), the doc had not. - Local extensions are removed when FF stops. I heard that this is not the case with "developer FF", but I don't want to drop the OS packaging of ESR FF. And that feature is already in Chromium based browsers. I don't even know what devFF is, though I've heard it's based on a FF beta branch. These are mostly not problems for the main target of FF. My parents main problem were that an update once replaced their custom starting page (tailor made) with the default one (recently visited sites + ads). They also had a few UI hard times, but these were either fixed by FF (adding a link to the starting page was impossible without reading a doc) or my parents got used to them.

Vinnl 7y ago
> - I need an extension to confirm on quit. I sometimes press Ctrl-q when I intended Ctrl-w. The config browser.showQuitWarning and browser.warnOnQuit have no effect. I had to read FF's source code to understand it was intentional: the code had evolved (IMHO, in a bad way), the doc had not. That's odd; I'm running stable Firefox, and the second option in my Preferences is "Warn you when quitting the browser" - and it does what it says, for me, without an extension.

human20190310 7y ago

I'm in a similar boat. Although I prefer Firefox in general, I was surprised to see how much better Chrome's performance was when doing development on a super-low-spec "travel laptop".