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I hope you don't take offense but I feel it's hard on my eyes to read text on a black background. I tried to read the article but it kind of hurt my eyes and ha

I hope you don't take offense but I feel it's hard on my eyes to read text on a black background. I tried to read the article but it kind of hurt my eyes and had to leave.

oehtXRwMkIs 7y ago
Probably moreso because of the low contrast.
rndgermandude 7y ago
Just install Firefox and use Reader mode... oh...
userbinator 7y ago
Fortunately Firefox has a feature by default not found in Chrome, which can help with that: you can easily turn off the CSS.
- acidburnNSA 7y ago
  On Firefox Android, you just reflexively hit the big reader mode button and choose one of three better modes (dark, light, white).
  - elkos 7y ago
    That's one of my favourite features. Sometimes I tend to read stuff on line when I'm in a dark room and I either use FF reader mode or one of the darm mode plugins. My only complaint is that the URL bar in my Android is always light and I can't seem to find a way to make it dark.
sergiomattei 7y ago
Yeah I visited and insta-left. That thin monospace with a faint gray color on that dark background was just impossible to read.
amanzi 7y ago
Were you reading in Chrome? Use the Reader mode in Firefox and you'll be fine.
- luckylion 7y ago
  It's funny how much I find myself using it since I've switched full time to Firefox. Site has never been tested on wide monitors? font-size is tiny? Terrible color choices? Annoyed by the font? Don't like flashy sidebars next to the content? Reader mode has you covered. Previously, when reading longer pieces, I'd go into dev tools and quickly kill the side bar, set a max width etc, but it's so convenient with reader mode.
devadvance 7y ago
Out of curiosity, is it this page in particular that was hard on the eyes, or dark-theme pages in general? The interesting part is that the body text appears to have a 5.71 contrast ratio, which meets the WCAG 2.1 Level AA criterion [1] but not Level AAA. I wonder if folks pursuing dark themes are making sure to give enough consideration to contrast. Oddly enough, this is actually one of the reasons I prefer Chrome Dev Tools. They've been adding a lot of accessibility-focused features [2][3], and as it relates to my question, it seems much easier get some of these essential details from Chrome Dev Tools than Firefox. [1] https://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG21/#contrast-minimum https://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG21/#contrast-minimum [2] https://developers.google.com/web/tools/chrome-devtools/accessibility/reference https://developers.google.com/web/tools/chrome-devtools/acce... [3] https://developers.google.com/web/updates/2019/01/devtools#inspect https://developers.google.com/web/updates/2019/01/devtools#i...
- ferzul 7y ago
  I can't easily read dark theme apps. Basically if I start one, I have to closely study the app till I find its options and choose the light theme. (This was awful when I had to make a new install of the Gimp recently - it used to be much more user friendly. I was about a minute away from searching the internet for how to change the config file manually or - shock - asking a friend.)
blondin 7y ago
not what i would call a "dark" background. that's pale. and obviously the material theme google has been pushing... anyways, sorry some people don't like it.
- auscompgeek 7y ago
  I don't think this is even remotely Material Design. The background colour looks like Solarized. Material Design would have higher contrast than this.
  - rndgermandude 7y ago
    Yep pretty much Solarized Dark and a reminder to me why I prefer a monokai derived theme.

I hope you don't take offense but I feel it's hard on my eyes to read text on a black background. I tried to read the article but it kind of hurt my eyes and had to leave.

oehtXRwMkIs 7y ago

Probably moreso because of the low contrast.

rndgermandude 7y ago

Just install Firefox and use Reader mode... oh...

userbinator 7y ago

Fortunately Firefox has a feature by default not found in Chrome, which can help with that: you can easily turn off the CSS.

acidburnNSA 7y ago
On Firefox Android, you just reflexively hit the big reader mode button and choose one of three better modes (dark, light, white).
- elkos 7y ago
  That's one of my favourite features. Sometimes I tend to read stuff on line when I'm in a dark room and I either use FF reader mode or one of the darm mode plugins. My only complaint is that the URL bar in my Android is always light and I can't seem to find a way to make it dark.

sergiomattei 7y ago

Yeah I visited and insta-left. That thin monospace with a faint gray color on that dark background was just impossible to read.

amanzi 7y ago

Were you reading in Chrome? Use the Reader mode in Firefox and you'll be fine.

luckylion 7y ago
It's funny how much I find myself using it since I've switched full time to Firefox. Site has never been tested on wide monitors? font-size is tiny? Terrible color choices? Annoyed by the font? Don't like flashy sidebars next to the content? Reader mode has you covered. Previously, when reading longer pieces, I'd go into dev tools and quickly kill the side bar, set a max width etc, but it's so convenient with reader mode.

devadvance 7y ago

Out of curiosity, is it this page in particular that was hard on the eyes, or dark-theme pages in general? The interesting part is that the body text appears to have a 5.71 contrast ratio, which meets the WCAG 2.1 Level AA criterion [1] but not Level AAA. I wonder if folks pursuing dark themes are making sure to give enough consideration to contrast. Oddly enough, this is actually one of the reasons I prefer Chrome Dev Tools. They've been adding a lot of accessibility-focused features [2][3], and as it relates to my question, it seems much easier get some of these essential details from Chrome Dev Tools than Firefox. [1] https://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG21/#contrast-minimum https://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG21/#contrast-minimum [2] https://developers.google.com/web/tools/chrome-devtools/accessibility/reference https://developers.google.com/web/tools/chrome-devtools/acce... [3] https://developers.google.com/web/updates/2019/01/devtools#inspect https://developers.google.com/web/updates/2019/01/devtools#i...

ferzul 7y ago
I can't easily read dark theme apps. Basically if I start one, I have to closely study the app till I find its options and choose the light theme. (This was awful when I had to make a new install of the Gimp recently - it used to be much more user friendly. I was about a minute away from searching the internet for how to change the config file manually or - shock - asking a friend.)

blondin 7y ago

not what i would call a "dark" background. that's pale. and obviously the material theme google has been pushing... anyways, sorry some people don't like it.

auscompgeek 7y ago
I don't think this is even remotely Material Design. The background colour looks like Solarized. Material Design would have higher contrast than this.
- rndgermandude 7y ago
  Yep pretty much Solarized Dark and a reminder to me why I prefer a monokai derived theme.