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Where did they say that?

by lidHanteyk 7y ago

slowmovintarget 7y ago
Reductio ad absurdum
- lidHanteyk 7y ago
  Ah, so you're shoving words into their mouth. Got it. Look, I understand the necessity and inevitability of going out to the stars just as much as any other cosmologically-minded person, but the author of that quote has serious points about contamination, following protocol, the looming danger of corporatization of space, respect for nature in its stark glory, and what kind of starfaring species we will choose to be. We ought to at least consider the possibility that we are headed in a poor direction, and consider a delta-v. Or we could just let corporations crash whatever they like into the Moon.
  - tomxor 7y ago
    > the author of that quote has serious points about contamination, following protocol, the looming danger of corporatization of space, respect for nature in its stark glory. No they don't, they have an ulterior SJW motive founded in science fiction - if anything they are doing a disservice by making decontaminating spacecraft into a joke. NASA cared about decontaminating spacecraft long before this person arrived, this has historically been driven by the concern of invalidating any discovery of life. The secondary concern is of disturbing an ecosystem in the extremely unlikely case that it exists at the destination AND is active AND the life being carried from Earth survives the journey and re-entry AND it miraculously manages to thrive in such an incredibly different (and commonly extremely harsh environment devoid of nutrients and atmosphere) AND competes better than the native organisms - note how both of these are scientific concerns, and the later (to which this person attached their insane argument) has an extremely small chance of happening. She is literally talking about colonialism and imperialism in space, as if these are real concerns and we might just charter a boat over there and rape the natives. If our little experiments are to fit the definition colonialism, then so is the evolution of different ecologies as new species migrate and invade others over time.
    - lidHanteyk 7y ago
      She literally works for NASA. (I could add more words, but they'd only be insults. You really messed up this time.)
      - tomxor 7y ago
        I know, what did you think i meant by: > NASA cared about decontaminating spacecraft long before this person arrived Why are you defending this person? they are completely inappropriately anthropomorphising the issue, you don't see ecologists going around talking about colonialism and imperialism when tackling disruptive invading species into an ecosystem.

Where did they say that?

slowmovintarget 7y ago

Reductio ad absurdum

lidHanteyk 7y ago
Ah, so you're shoving words into their mouth. Got it. Look, I understand the necessity and inevitability of going out to the stars just as much as any other cosmologically-minded person, but the author of that quote has serious points about contamination, following protocol, the looming danger of corporatization of space, respect for nature in its stark glory, and what kind of starfaring species we will choose to be. We ought to at least consider the possibility that we are headed in a poor direction, and consider a delta-v. Or we could just let corporations crash whatever they like into the Moon.
- tomxor 7y ago
  > the author of that quote has serious points about contamination, following protocol, the looming danger of corporatization of space, respect for nature in its stark glory. No they don't, they have an ulterior SJW motive founded in science fiction - if anything they are doing a disservice by making decontaminating spacecraft into a joke. NASA cared about decontaminating spacecraft long before this person arrived, this has historically been driven by the concern of invalidating any discovery of life. The secondary concern is of disturbing an ecosystem in the extremely unlikely case that it exists at the destination AND is active AND the life being carried from Earth survives the journey and re-entry AND it miraculously manages to thrive in such an incredibly different (and commonly extremely harsh environment devoid of nutrients and atmosphere) AND competes better than the native organisms - note how both of these are scientific concerns, and the later (to which this person attached their insane argument) has an extremely small chance of happening. She is literally talking about colonialism and imperialism in space, as if these are real concerns and we might just charter a boat over there and rape the natives. If our little experiments are to fit the definition colonialism, then so is the evolution of different ecologies as new species migrate and invade others over time.
  - lidHanteyk 7y ago
    She literally works for NASA. (I could add more words, but they'd only be insults. You really messed up this time.)
    - tomxor 7y ago
      I know, what did you think i meant by: > NASA cared about decontaminating spacecraft long before this person arrived Why are you defending this person? they are completely inappropriately anthropomorphising the issue, you don't see ecologists going around talking about colonialism and imperialism when tackling disruptive invading species into an ecosystem.