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STEAM just correctly recognizes that STEM people systematically underrate the importance of history and social studies.

by damnyou 7y ago

knolax 7y ago
Social Studies majors systematically overrate the epistemological integrity of their fields.
- damnyou 7y ago
  Yeah, yet there should still be more social studies people in power at tech companies.
  - knolax 7y ago
    A major in philosophy is not required to have a conscience.
    - damnyou 7y ago
      You can have the best intentions and cause tremendous harm to the world.
  - rumanator 7y ago
    > Yeah, yet there should still be more social studies people in power at tech companies. Why do you believe that?
    - damnyou 7y ago
      Because tech companies are in way over their heads with all the social problems they've created.
6thaccount2 7y ago
Not underrate. There are only so many hours to spend learning. Current school systems put Math on the same footing with History, PE, foreign language...etc.
Retric 7y ago
It’s not a question of importance, but abundance. Looking at salaries there is an over abundance of history and social studies graduates. It’s simply a supply vs demand imbalance, and one that has real consequences. Many STEM fields are also over saturated, and some arts fields can make a good career path. But, nuances are not really the point of this discussion.
- damnyou 7y ago
  Yes, you have successfully identified a structural issue with modern capitalism.
  - rumanator 7y ago
    Care to point out what you believe is the structural issue?
    - damnyou 7y ago
      That the labor of historians and social scientists is undervalued compared to the benefit they bring to humanity. There is no incentive for a large tech corp to have historians as C-level officers, even though it's a no brainier logically. This happens because shareholder value is the only thing corporations are optimized for.
fortran77 7y ago
And they should offer Arts, Social Studies, and History (ASH!?) in response.

STEAM just correctly recognizes that STEM people systematically underrate the importance of history and social studies.

knolax 7y ago

Social Studies majors systematically overrate the epistemological integrity of their fields.

damnyou 7y ago
Yeah, yet there should still be more social studies people in power at tech companies.
- knolax 7y ago
  A major in philosophy is not required to have a conscience.
  - damnyou 7y ago
    You can have the best intentions and cause tremendous harm to the world.
- rumanator 7y ago
  > Yeah, yet there should still be more social studies people in power at tech companies. Why do you believe that?
  - damnyou 7y ago
    Because tech companies are in way over their heads with all the social problems they've created.

6thaccount2 7y ago

Not underrate. There are only so many hours to spend learning. Current school systems put Math on the same footing with History, PE, foreign language...etc.

Retric 7y ago

It’s not a question of importance, but abundance. Looking at salaries there is an over abundance of history and social studies graduates. It’s simply a supply vs demand imbalance, and one that has real consequences. Many STEM fields are also over saturated, and some arts fields can make a good career path. But, nuances are not really the point of this discussion.

damnyou 7y ago
Yes, you have successfully identified a structural issue with modern capitalism.
- rumanator 7y ago
  Care to point out what you believe is the structural issue?
  - damnyou 7y ago
    That the labor of historians and social scientists is undervalued compared to the benefit they bring to humanity. There is no incentive for a large tech corp to have historians as C-level officers, even though it's a no brainier logically. This happens because shareholder value is the only thing corporations are optimized for.

fortran77 7y ago

And they should offer Arts, Social Studies, and History (ASH!?) in response.