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> Consul/Nomad/Vault/Fabio This is not very much easier to implement than kubernetes, in my experience, and you end up with a less capable system at the end of

> Consul/Nomad/Vault/Fabio This is not very much easier to implement than kubernetes, in my experience, and you end up with a less capable system at the end of it.

twblalock 7y ago
And everyone you hire has to be trained on your particular in-house system.
- scarface74 7y ago
  That’s exactly what I said That being said, for both Resume Driven Development reasons and because we might be able to find people who know what they were doing, if I had to do another on prem implementation that called for it, I would probably lean toward K8s.
scarface74 7y ago
And this was on Windows - for reasons. None of these can run as Windows Services by themselves. I had to use NSSM. That being said. -Consul a three line yaml configuration to set it up in cluster. It’s a single standalone executable that you run in server mode or client mode. - once you install Consul on all of the clients and tell it about the cluster, the next step is easy. - run the Nomad executable as a server, if you already have Consul, there is no step 2. It automatically configures itself using Consul. - run Nomad in client mode on your app/web servers. If you already have the Consul client running - there is no step 2. - Vault was a pain, and I only did it as a proof of concept. I ended up just using Consul for all of the configuration and a encryption class where I needed to store secrets. Did I mention that we had a lot of C# framework code that we didn’t want to try containerize and Nomad handles everything. That being said, I wouldn’t do it again. If we had a pure Linux shop and the competencies to maintain Linux I would have gone with K8s instead if I had to do an on prem implementation. But honestly, at the level I’m at now, no one would pay me the kind of money I ask for to do an on prem implementation from scratch. It’s not my area of expertise - AWS is.
- empath75 7y ago
  Well you can spin up a working k8s cluster in 5 minutes with Kops, but that’s obviously not the end of the story.
  - scarface74 7y ago
    How well would that work orchestrating a combination of a Docker containers, C# (.Net Framework not .Net Core) executables, Powershell scripts, etc?
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> Consul/Nomad/Vault/Fabio This is not very much easier to implement than kubernetes, in my experience, and you end up with a less capable system at the end of it.

twblalock 7y ago

And everyone you hire has to be trained on your particular in-house system.

scarface74 7y ago
That’s exactly what I said That being said, for both Resume Driven Development reasons and because we might be able to find people who know what they were doing, if I had to do another on prem implementation that called for it, I would probably lean toward K8s.

scarface74 7y ago

And this was on Windows - for reasons. None of these can run as Windows Services by themselves. I had to use NSSM. That being said. -Consul a three line yaml configuration to set it up in cluster. It’s a single standalone executable that you run in server mode or client mode. - once you install Consul on all of the clients and tell it about the cluster, the next step is easy. - run the Nomad executable as a server, if you already have Consul, there is no step 2. It automatically configures itself using Consul. - run Nomad in client mode on your app/web servers. If you already have the Consul client running - there is no step 2. - Vault was a pain, and I only did it as a proof of concept. I ended up just using Consul for all of the configuration and a encryption class where I needed to store secrets. Did I mention that we had a lot of C# framework code that we didn’t want to try containerize and Nomad handles everything. That being said, I wouldn’t do it again. If we had a pure Linux shop and the competencies to maintain Linux I would have gone with K8s instead if I had to do an on prem implementation. But honestly, at the level I’m at now, no one would pay me the kind of money I ask for to do an on prem implementation from scratch. It’s not my area of expertise - AWS is.

empath75 7y ago
Well you can spin up a working k8s cluster in 5 minutes with Kops, but that’s obviously not the end of the story.
- scarface74 7y ago
  How well would that work orchestrating a combination of a Docker containers, C# (.Net Framework not .Net Core) executables, Powershell scripts, etc?

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