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Will RCS work on dumb phones and phones without data or wifi ? Asking for real, I've never heard of the tech. SMS for me are a godsend. They work with every p
by sametmax 7y ago
Will RCS work on dumb phones and phones without data or wifi ?
Asking for real, I've never heard of the tech.
SMS for me are a godsend. They work with every phones, every carriers. They work on terrible networks. They work in the mountains, in the country side, in the trains and cars when going fast, in many tunnels and metros. They work in crazily lost places when I travel. Once I sent a text to my father from the Dogon country, a northern part of Mali where there is only sand and a few goats.
Lost your phone ? If you can remember/find the phone number, get a cheap sim, send a text, you are back in business. No permission scheme, no auth, no friends to add or certificate. 1 SIM = 1 ID is also very convenient.
SMS is the email of phone. Limited. Primitive. Efficient. Reliable.
So if you want to replace it with something else, you need a very good story.
- msh 7y agoIt will auto downgrade to sms/mms if the recipient does not support rcs.
- NullPrefix 7y agoThis implies no encryption
- jolmg 7y agoAnd if the sender does not support RCS? Would there be a way for an old or cheap phone to contact a new smartphone after SMS is supposedly replaced with RCS?
- msh 7y agoI see no reason a cheap phone can't support data/rcs. My cheap nokia supports whatsapp. But I guess old cheap phones will be left out but I think no sms support will be far in the future, especially if Apple won't support it.
- xbmcuser 7y agoAround here 2g phones have stopped working people were informed 2-3 years before it being implemented that 2g phones will no longer work. So sms being killed off is not out of the question. Majority of the people in asia got mobile phones in smartphone era where they already had a WhatsApp of similar so sms is not as big a thing as it is in North America.
- jolmg 7y agoIn my corner of the world at least, small $20 brickphones can be bought at practically every corner convenience store. I'm pretty sure they don't have Whatsapp. They definitely don't run android, at least.
- msh 7y agoYou can get semi smart phones with data and whatsapp for as low as 17$. See https://www.androidauthority.com/kaios-phone-review-979286/ https://www.androidauthority.com/kaios-phone-review-979286/
- izacus 7y agoIt'll just send an SMS, the protocol isn't going anywhere. Phones still support 2G networks too and even iPhones can still send SMS messages although iMessage is a thing.
- tus88 7y ago> SMS is the email of phone. Limited. Primitive. Efficient. Reliable. And RCS sounds like the Google Wave of text messaging.
- dingus 7y agoSMS has always been unreliable. It has no place in modern communications. No delivery confirmation: messages silently drop and the recipient is unaware you attempted to message them. There is no notification to you that your message failed to deliver. Profoundly long delivery delays: messages sometimes get stuck and get delivered hours or days later. "Hey dude meet me out front" delivered 16 hours later, etc. Length restrictions: some phones still do not handle long messages correctly. If the character limit is exceeded, messages are cut into unordered pieces, or the message is truncated and part of the message is simply deleted. I'm not saying RCS is the answer, just pointing out that SMS is garbage.
- anon4242 7y ago> just pointing out that SMS is garbage So is email, it just happens to be the best we have because like email it's ubiquitous.
- ddingus 7y agoI have none of those experiences. Use SMS constantly. Often with extensions, MMS, read receipts, etc... It just works. Faults are rare. I do not disagree on it being "garbage", in the same way email is, but both bits of tech work well. I can count faults on one hand per quarter, and that is among a ton of comms with many people.
- david-s 7y agoIt failed for over a month for me, but only in one direction, and I didn't know. Other party thought I was ignoring them. Lack of confirmation makes it 'worse than useless' in the failure case
- dingus 7y agoMaybe some hardware/carrier configurations have less problems? All I can say is, in the past 15+ years of SMS messaging, in the US, on every carrier, with devices ranging from the early Nokias to the latest iPhones, I have had reliability problems that are frequent enough for me to avoid SMS when possible.
- foxylad 7y agoWe have an alert service for schools. SMS average deliverability is only 88%, and in high traffic events it's even worse. For comparison, voice is 97%. So SMS is actually not that great.