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> This is a perfect solution fallacy. No Sir -- not from me, anywhere in anything I ever wrote. Browsers are imperfect. For one thing they have 0days. Brave i
by BrendanEich 7y ago
> This is a perfect solution fallacy.
No Sir -- not from me, anywhere in anything I ever wrote. Browsers are imperfect. For one thing they have 0days.
Brave is imperfect too.
Before we correspond more, please tell me how you took my big-picture realpolitik point about western ad powers acquiring or otherwise getting control over 3 of 4 top browsers as having anything to do with perfect vs. good?
- kerkeslager 7y agoIt's pointing at other browsers and saying, "Look, they're not perfect either, so it's okay for Brave to not be perfect". Sure, that's true, but it's no excuse for Brave not aiming for perfection.
- BrendanEich 7y agoI never said that either. Don’t put words in my mouth. I said 3 of 4 top browsers are owned by or almost wholly dependent for revenue on huge ad businesses. That matters. You can see it in Apple’s ITP and prior third party cookie blocker, in Safari from 2003. Apple is not dependent on ads that need tracking.
- kerkeslager 7y agoOkay, yes, it does matter that 3 of the 4 top browsers are dependent on ads for revenue. Where I'm confused is why you think that this is a defense of Brave, which is also dependent on ads for revenue.
- BrendanEich 7y agoBecause as I diagrammed repeatedly, the problem is not “ads” as ritually impure funding model, but tracking. Safari and Brave block tracking. Edge and Firefox are late to this party and not yet blocking hard by default. It is not ads but tracking which creates perverse conflicts and hazards, including regulatory and ‘browsers as blind ad tech runtimes’ capture.