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Let me quess - you never driver for Lyft or Uber have you now? Your full time w2 job comes woth exact the sane flexibility - you are allow to show anytime you

Let me quess - you never driver for Lyft or Uber have you now? Your full time w2 job comes woth exact the sane flexibility - you are allow to show anytime you want to, take breaks as long as you want to and do whatever task you want to. Slavery is over. But just so you know - if you don’t play by the rules you will get fired probably on day one. Similar with share ride apps you are being scored and valuated on every single fart you pass, including amount of signouts, miles you drive, score you get for riders etc. same story you are not forced to do some quota but if you don’t score high enough on their weekly “goodbye to all that didnt fit top 60%” you are not part of family anymore.

danem 7y ago
> Your full time w2 job comes woth exact the sane flexibility - you are allow to show anytime you want to, take breaks as long as you want to and do whatever task you want to. What full time job do you have that allows you to show up whenever you want, work as little hours as you want, and do whatever you want? Sign me up.
- joering2 7y ago
  Plenty of jobs are like this these days. A few of my peeps do work W2 full time, but most time they spent at home; they show up at the office only for official meetings, and other than overall goals they manage their own work, including taking as many PTO as they want to (unlimited, but they are benchmarked based on their work results, not amount of hours they clocked in so you probably going to take full time vacation only once they will be fired). The only thing from your list that we could argue about is "do whatever task you want to", but that doesn't apply to drivers neither - their task is very strict in fact - they supposed to take riders from A to B, period. No form of deviation is allowed. So actually this alone locked them into a full/part time employee, because they do not have a freedom to do any job they want to, similar to how as a contractor you can chose what you do next.

danem 7y ago

> Your full time w2 job comes woth exact the sane flexibility - you are allow to show anytime you want to, take breaks as long as you want to and do whatever task you want to. What full time job do you have that allows you to show up whenever you want, work as little hours as you want, and do whatever you want? Sign me up.

joering2 7y ago
Plenty of jobs are like this these days. A few of my peeps do work W2 full time, but most time they spent at home; they show up at the office only for official meetings, and other than overall goals they manage their own work, including taking as many PTO as they want to (unlimited, but they are benchmarked based on their work results, not amount of hours they clocked in so you probably going to take full time vacation only once they will be fired). The only thing from your list that we could argue about is "do whatever task you want to", but that doesn't apply to drivers neither - their task is very strict in fact - they supposed to take riders from A to B, period. No form of deviation is allowed. So actually this alone locked them into a full/part time employee, because they do not have a freedom to do any job they want to, similar to how as a contractor you can chose what you do next.