You pretty much nailed it on the head there with the "get someone talking about programming" piece but I try to start with one problem and dig deeper into it ra

You pretty much nailed it on the head there with the "get someone talking about programming" piece but I try to start with one problem and dig deeper into it rather than having many questions as if going down a checklist. That's why you also have more than one person do the interview so you can get multiple perspectives.