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Those are just some conditions of work,typically contractors would have similar conditions. The point of qualifying them as employees is offering the (little)

Those are just some conditions of work,typically contractors would have similar conditions. The point of qualifying them as employees is offering the (little) protection the state grants those, acting as a negotiating agent in a relation that is typically disproportionately favorable the larger party, i.e. the company. Most drivers I've met don't do that for fun but because they have to. They are usually not part of the upper or middle classes but or the more vulnerable. And as such, getting some status that prevents companies known for their bad hr practices to do whatever they want is the human thing to do.

leetcrew 7y ago
ride share drivers are pretty clearly not employees in the same way that I am an employee at my current 9-5 or how I was when I worked in a restaurant. these jobs also differ importantly from typical contractor gigs. instead of fighting over whether to classify them as Employees or Contractors, why not push for a new set of rules that actually suit the situation? is it just not as viable politically?
AlexTWithBeard 7y ago
Protecting people is good and indeed is one of the duties of the government. But why the government is trying to push this duty onto the business? California is one of the richest state. How about you introduce affordable healthcare for all citizens if the state? I'm sure it will bring the working class more good than all uber laws combined.
- hollerith 7y ago
  There is no such thing as a citizen of California. Every citizen of the US (except the ones out on bail, incarcerated or on probation) has the right to move to California at any time, which is the big flaw in your idea: if California were to start to subsidize healthcare for every California resident, hundreds of thousands of sick US citizens who currently cannot pay their medical bills would move to California, putting a politically unsustainable burden on California's taxpayers. Subsidizing health care in the US has to be done at the Federal level. The Federal level can require the states to contribute, and I think that is what the Federal Affordable Care Act does, but that is politically palatable only because all 50 states must contribute.
  - AlexTWithBeard 7y ago
    Well, I'm sure Californians, who value democratic principles highly, will gladly accept migrants, who in turn will help to build the state even stronger. Also you have somehow assumed that a person with health problems is a net burden for the state. When all the progressive humankind have recognized that disabled people can and do contribute a lot to the society, you are dismissing their contribution calling them "a burden".

leetcrew 7y ago

ride share drivers are pretty clearly not employees in the same way that I am an employee at my current 9-5 or how I was when I worked in a restaurant. these jobs also differ importantly from typical contractor gigs. instead of fighting over whether to classify them as Employees or Contractors, why not push for a new set of rules that actually suit the situation? is it just not as viable politically?

AlexTWithBeard 7y ago

Protecting people is good and indeed is one of the duties of the government. But why the government is trying to push this duty onto the business? California is one of the richest state. How about you introduce affordable healthcare for all citizens if the state? I'm sure it will bring the working class more good than all uber laws combined.

hollerith 7y ago
There is no such thing as a citizen of California. Every citizen of the US (except the ones out on bail, incarcerated or on probation) has the right to move to California at any time, which is the big flaw in your idea: if California were to start to subsidize healthcare for every California resident, hundreds of thousands of sick US citizens who currently cannot pay their medical bills would move to California, putting a politically unsustainable burden on California's taxpayers. Subsidizing health care in the US has to be done at the Federal level. The Federal level can require the states to contribute, and I think that is what the Federal Affordable Care Act does, but that is politically palatable only because all 50 states must contribute.
- AlexTWithBeard 7y ago
  Well, I'm sure Californians, who value democratic principles highly, will gladly accept migrants, who in turn will help to build the state even stronger. Also you have somehow assumed that a person with health problems is a net burden for the state. When all the progressive humankind have recognized that disabled people can and do contribute a lot to the society, you are dismissing their contribution calling them "a burden".