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The biggest issue isn't one mentioned in the article. No amount of hiring tricks and hacks will work around the fact that hardly anyone (including most managers

The biggest issue isn't one mentioned in the article. No amount of hiring tricks and hacks will work around the fact that hardly anyone (including most managers and HR pros) gets trained on how to review a resume, conduct an interview, and evaluate a candidate.

humanrebar 7y ago
That presumes there is teachable wisdom and technique in that domain.
codingdave 7y ago
This does not ring true based on my experience. Where have you worked where you found this to be the case?
- ddebernardy 7y ago
  Maybe you got luckier in your career than I have been or you've only ever worked for very large businesses. Once you've learned the types of questions that tend to work better you immediately notice when whoever is interviewing you isn't asking them. Interviewers who mostly ask these types of questions and go on to dig deep enough to understand your contributions and the rational behind them are few and far in between.
- tidepod12 7y ago
  I worked at one of the largest global consulting companies (and I have enough friends in the other major consulting companies to know it's the same in most of them). I was a relatively junior person working there in my early-to-mid 20s. It was common practice for me and my peers to be asked to review resumes and filter them, as well as be an interviewer every few months. I never once received any kind of training on interviewing or resume review. Not even the 10-minute-cheesy-corporate-video kind of training. Hell, not even a quick 1-pager or chat on tips or things to look for. It was literally just "hey here's a stack of resumes, please filter them".
neogodless 7y ago
I've never been trained on how to write, test or debug code. But I've gotten pretty good at it - you can self-train and learn from experience. Of course, the difference is that the feedback loop is at least two to three orders of magnitude faster for writing code than for figuring out if you did a good job hiring.
tyscorp 7y ago
How can someone get this training outside of their job?
- ddebernardy 7y ago
  There are a few excellent episodes on the topic over at Manager Tools. (I'd be happy to train your team if you don't want to go through their archive.)

humanrebar 7y ago

That presumes there is teachable wisdom and technique in that domain.

codingdave 7y ago

This does not ring true based on my experience. Where have you worked where you found this to be the case?

ddebernardy 7y ago
Maybe you got luckier in your career than I have been or you've only ever worked for very large businesses. Once you've learned the types of questions that tend to work better you immediately notice when whoever is interviewing you isn't asking them. Interviewers who mostly ask these types of questions and go on to dig deep enough to understand your contributions and the rational behind them are few and far in between.
tidepod12 7y ago
I worked at one of the largest global consulting companies (and I have enough friends in the other major consulting companies to know it's the same in most of them). I was a relatively junior person working there in my early-to-mid 20s. It was common practice for me and my peers to be asked to review resumes and filter them, as well as be an interviewer every few months. I never once received any kind of training on interviewing or resume review. Not even the 10-minute-cheesy-corporate-video kind of training. Hell, not even a quick 1-pager or chat on tips or things to look for. It was literally just "hey here's a stack of resumes, please filter them".

neogodless 7y ago

I've never been trained on how to write, test or debug code. But I've gotten pretty good at it - you can self-train and learn from experience. Of course, the difference is that the feedback loop is at least two to three orders of magnitude faster for writing code than for figuring out if you did a good job hiring.

tyscorp 7y ago

How can someone get this training outside of their job?

ddebernardy 7y ago
There are a few excellent episodes on the topic over at Manager Tools. (I'd be happy to train your team if you don't want to go through their archive.)