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I don't think of it as entitlement so much as a refusal to see the world as it is. There are a trillion arbitrary signals that will help or hinder your success

I don't think of it as entitlement so much as a refusal to see the world as it is. There are a trillion arbitrary signals that will help or hinder your success in various ways. Physical attractiveness, gender, race, parental background, your nationality, where you can work, your accent, language... the list is honestly almost endless. You can wish for a world in which none of this were true, or do your best to find a place within it. Sure, don't lose sight of justice, but recognise that you can't change the world alone.

Apocryphon 7y ago
The tech industry, and Silicon Valley in particular, has long pretended to be an ultra-rational meritocracy. Some people buy into the rhetoric, and get bitterly disappointed when proven wrong. If the industry didn’t feed the myth, perhaps people would have less of an emotional reaction.
- esotericn 7y ago
  I say this without meaning to be offensive, but surely it's blindingly obvious that this isn't the case? For all of the reasons I stated above? I think you'd have to be severely mentally deficient in order to think that commercial software development operates in some sort of strict high score board fashion. OSS development I think is significantly closer if you allow for the sampling bias that only certain groups have enough time to contribute.
  - Apocryphon 7y ago
    I think the power of myth and marketing are far more powerful than you expect, especially those who pivot into tech via boot camps and such as an attempt to find a better field to work in. People flocking into tech seem to buy into the concept that the meritocracy will reward them. And unrelated to hiring, tech CEOs are often still regarded as ultra-rational geniuses despite some blowback.
  - watwut 7y ago
    Majority of OSS development is paid for. It is not done by unpaid volunteers feeding themselves by something else. Some of it is like that, but not much. As much as I like open source, there is a lot of myth making around it too. ________ Second whether obvious or not, people argued that we meritocracy on these forums here for years. And some still do. At meritocracy peek, Github had even that meritocracy carpet or whatever it was.
    - edflsafoiewq 7y ago
      I doubt that. The super-star projects with millions of users sure, but the majority of OSS is probably in the long tail of tiny one-man shows, Github projects with five stars, etc.
      - watwut 7y ago
        The small one person projects with 5 stars have nothing to do with "operating in some sort of strict high score board fashion" or meritocratic evaluation of anything. Anyway, FOSS makes yearly polls about these topics. It is biased toward more involved projects, but again I don't think someone's one weekend demo is what is talked about here.

Apocryphon 7y ago

The tech industry, and Silicon Valley in particular, has long pretended to be an ultra-rational meritocracy. Some people buy into the rhetoric, and get bitterly disappointed when proven wrong. If the industry didn’t feed the myth, perhaps people would have less of an emotional reaction.

esotericn 7y ago
I say this without meaning to be offensive, but surely it's blindingly obvious that this isn't the case? For all of the reasons I stated above? I think you'd have to be severely mentally deficient in order to think that commercial software development operates in some sort of strict high score board fashion. OSS development I think is significantly closer if you allow for the sampling bias that only certain groups have enough time to contribute.
- Apocryphon 7y ago
  I think the power of myth and marketing are far more powerful than you expect, especially those who pivot into tech via boot camps and such as an attempt to find a better field to work in. People flocking into tech seem to buy into the concept that the meritocracy will reward them. And unrelated to hiring, tech CEOs are often still regarded as ultra-rational geniuses despite some blowback.
- watwut 7y ago
  Majority of OSS development is paid for. It is not done by unpaid volunteers feeding themselves by something else. Some of it is like that, but not much. As much as I like open source, there is a lot of myth making around it too. ________ Second whether obvious or not, people argued that we meritocracy on these forums here for years. And some still do. At meritocracy peek, Github had even that meritocracy carpet or whatever it was.
  - edflsafoiewq 7y ago
    I doubt that. The super-star projects with millions of users sure, but the majority of OSS is probably in the long tail of tiny one-man shows, Github projects with five stars, etc.
    - watwut 7y ago
      The small one person projects with 5 stars have nothing to do with "operating in some sort of strict high score board fashion" or meritocratic evaluation of anything. Anyway, FOSS makes yearly polls about these topics. It is biased toward more involved projects, but again I don't think someone's one weekend demo is what is talked about here.