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Great, that means Conversion Therapy works then right?
by aaron695 7y ago
Great, that means Conversion Therapy works then right?
- Uhhrrr 7y agoCan't tell if sarcastic or not, but that question will certainly be resurrected.
- aiscapehumanity 7y agoPsychological trauma (Spiced up with 2000 year old memes) has always worked to ruin minds, if that is what you mean.
- mrburton 7y agoWho said anything about "Conversion Therapy"? I'm lost to what this comment is in reference to?
- flomble 7y agoThe idea is that if your sexuality is not innate, then it can be changed. There's long been a desire to prove that homosexuality is genetic in order to counter the claim of bigots that they can turn people straight through shame and abuse. It's frustrating on several levels. One, there is an element of the naturalistic fallacy; many people feel that homosexuality being "natural" (e.g. occurring in many animal species or being immutably determined by genes) is a strong defence of it (as opposed to the preferable argument of "it's not hurting you, so you have absolutely zero grounds to object to it"). Two, many people want to be able to point to a single gene as the causative factor, when genetics is rarely so simple, and other prenatal factors may contribute (e.g. something that happens during gestation).
- taffer 7y agoJust because something is not determined by genes does not automatically mean it is not innate. Some traits are determined by hormones and there might be many other mechanisms that determine our physical and behavioral traits.
- flomble 7y agoYes, absolutely! In particular there's evidence for: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fraternal_birth_order_and_male_sexual_orientation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fraternal_birth_order_and_male...