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> Fruit is extremely good food for humans It is most certainly not. The soluble and insoluble fiber in fruit is good for humans because it prevents rapid absor

> Fruit is extremely good food for humans It is most certainly not. The soluble and insoluble fiber in fruit is good for humans because it prevents rapid absorption of fructose, which is most definitely toxic. (Paracelsus was right when he said that the dose makes the poison! It just so happens that even small doses of fructose have an outsized impact on appetite.) Fructose is toxic because it is primarily metabolized by the liver. It has been shown to be at the root of overeating because of its effects on satiety signaling via leptin and ghrelin. > Fructose also has the best ability to be absorbed by muscle cells without the need for insulin, compared to other sugars. This is simply false. (Google it!) When used by an athlete after strenuous activity, it is true that fructose replenishes _glycogen_ in the liver, which is released as glucose, which muscle can use. But most people haven't just finished running a marathon when they gulp down a liter of Gatorade. So the effect 99% is to just fatten you up. I recommend a few educational videos to bring you up to speed on a great deal of science that has been discovered in the last 15 years or so. Dr. Lustig (endocrinologist at UCSF) lays it out: "Processed Food: An Experiment That Failed": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvgxNDuQ5DI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvgxNDuQ5DI "Fructose is a poison": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgTlFFWMNy0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgTlFFWMNy0 https://robertlustig.com/fructose-restriction/ https://robertlustig.com/fructose-restriction/ https://robertlustig.com/fructose2/ https://robertlustig.com/fructose2/

oil25 7y ago
Fruit is absolutely healthy for humans - physiologically we are frugivorous apes, after all. Hence why nearly all evidence-based nutritional guidelines from all around the world encourage whole fruit consumption, as part of a diet with other whole plant foods like grains, legumes and vegetables. > gulp down a liter of Gatorade. So the effect 99% is to just fatten you up. This could not be further from the truth. Humans are notoriously inefficient at de novo lipogenesis - the process of turning sugar into fat. The myth that sugar causes weight gain (on its own, not accompanied by a high-fat diet) is just that - a myth. Not to say gulping down Gatorade is a good idea, but it isn't nearly as harmful as consuming a steak, or a stick of butter, when it comes to weight gain.
- andrekandre 7y ago
  i was under the assumption that it was simple calories such as pasta/bread/rice/candies etc is that then not true? if not, what is the cause of weight gain?
  - oil25 7y ago
    Fat has more calories and is more easily stored by the body than carbohydrates. Processed carbs, simple sugars give a greater rise in the hormone insulin, which basically puts fat into fat cells. It is not carbs' conversion to fat which causes weight gain, but their consumption in the presence of a high-fat diet.
    - andrekandre 7y ago
      interesting... would that mean, it’s easier to gain fat by eating pasta + lots of olive oil vs pasta with just tomato sauce? (i have a terrible olive oil addiction ^_^)
      - cies 7y ago
        Yes. In case both meals are calorically equal, yes. The excess in cals from carbs are only marginally turned into fat (lipogenesis is not something humans are good at) and thus the excess is mostly burnt up by heating your body a bit higher (forgot the scientific term for this). So the fat you eat is pretty much the fat you wear. If you eat fat and carbs together (almost everyone does that) then your body will choose to use the carbs energy directly and store the fat. As fat is good for long term storage (unlike carbs, that get stored as sugar for short term use in muscles and liver), and carbs not bee efficiently turned into fat (as mentioned) yet can very efficiently be stored.
        andrekandre 7y ago
        i see, very interesting so low fat, in the end is actually good for you... sometimes i really feel bounced around by all of these diets that come and go... but i’ll read up on those links and other info you shared. thanks for the detailed reply

oil25 7y ago

Fruit is absolutely healthy for humans - physiologically we are frugivorous apes, after all. Hence why nearly all evidence-based nutritional guidelines from all around the world encourage whole fruit consumption, as part of a diet with other whole plant foods like grains, legumes and vegetables. > gulp down a liter of Gatorade. So the effect 99% is to just fatten you up. This could not be further from the truth. Humans are notoriously inefficient at de novo lipogenesis - the process of turning sugar into fat. The myth that sugar causes weight gain (on its own, not accompanied by a high-fat diet) is just that - a myth. Not to say gulping down Gatorade is a good idea, but it isn't nearly as harmful as consuming a steak, or a stick of butter, when it comes to weight gain.

andrekandre 7y ago
i was under the assumption that it was simple calories such as pasta/bread/rice/candies etc is that then not true? if not, what is the cause of weight gain?
- oil25 7y ago
  Fat has more calories and is more easily stored by the body than carbohydrates. Processed carbs, simple sugars give a greater rise in the hormone insulin, which basically puts fat into fat cells. It is not carbs' conversion to fat which causes weight gain, but their consumption in the presence of a high-fat diet.
  - andrekandre 7y ago
    interesting... would that mean, it’s easier to gain fat by eating pasta + lots of olive oil vs pasta with just tomato sauce? (i have a terrible olive oil addiction ^_^)
    - cies 7y ago
      Yes. In case both meals are calorically equal, yes. The excess in cals from carbs are only marginally turned into fat (lipogenesis is not something humans are good at) and thus the excess is mostly burnt up by heating your body a bit higher (forgot the scientific term for this). So the fat you eat is pretty much the fat you wear. If you eat fat and carbs together (almost everyone does that) then your body will choose to use the carbs energy directly and store the fat. As fat is good for long term storage (unlike carbs, that get stored as sugar for short term use in muscles and liver), and carbs not bee efficiently turned into fat (as mentioned) yet can very efficiently be stored.
      - andrekandre 7y ago
        i see, very interesting so low fat, in the end is actually good for you... sometimes i really feel bounced around by all of these diets that come and go... but i’ll read up on those links and other info you shared. thanks for the detailed reply