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Did you even bother to read the article? They state this themselves. > The lack of change in homicide rates during the period of interest lends some strength t

Did you even bother to read the article? They state this themselves. > The lack of change in homicide rates during the period of interest lends some strength to the idea that changes in suicide rates were influenced by the show and not some other environmental or social factor that occurred during this period. [...] > While compelling, this research had several limitations. For example, the study used a quasi-experimental design, meaning that the researchers cannot make a causal link between the release of “13 Reasons Why” and the observed changes in suicide rates. The researchers cannot, therefore, rule out the possibility that unmeasured events or factors influenced suicide rates during this period.

riffic 7y ago
no, I didn't bother to read the press release and I do not have access to the source journal.
rightbyte 7y ago
They also write: "Conclusion: The release of 13 Reasons Why was associated with a significant increase in monthly suicide rates among U.S. youth aged 10 to 17 years. Caution regarding the exposure of children and adolescents to the series is warranted." The could have written the exact opposite since the release also is associated (according to the authors) with a CI [downwards going to less increasing] trend in suicide rates. April 2015 was also a spike April. And the March to April step in suicides 2017 when the series was released is not bigger than many other steps. I would say there has to be more to it than what the authors provide to claim something is associated with an increase. Actually, all events that has happened since the beginning of the data series could be associated with a "significant increase monthly suicide rates among U.S. youth aged 10 to 17 years" since the long trend is in that direction.
Rapzid 7y ago
It's important to bring up. They sure make a lot of recommendations for "necessary best practices" based on bunk. Most people read articles headlines and maybe just skim some of the rest. The damage is kinda done now in that a lot of articles are gonna come out saying it could be "associated with 29%.." which to the average person reads as "Watching this causes suicide". Heck, Salt Lake City IDS "...we highly discourage students from watching this series". The mania has begun and some hand-wavy dismissal of environmental or social factors because they definitely would have increased homicide rates(except 13 Reasons Why of somehow, of course, because reasons!), and some brief, buried nod to correlation != causation doesn't make it all better.

riffic 7y ago

no, I didn't bother to read the press release and I do not have access to the source journal.

rightbyte 7y ago

They also write: "Conclusion: The release of 13 Reasons Why was associated with a significant increase in monthly suicide rates among U.S. youth aged 10 to 17 years. Caution regarding the exposure of children and adolescents to the series is warranted." The could have written the exact opposite since the release also is associated (according to the authors) with a CI [downwards going to less increasing] trend in suicide rates. April 2015 was also a spike April. And the March to April step in suicides 2017 when the series was released is not bigger than many other steps. I would say there has to be more to it than what the authors provide to claim something is associated with an increase. Actually, all events that has happened since the beginning of the data series could be associated with a "significant increase monthly suicide rates among U.S. youth aged 10 to 17 years" since the long trend is in that direction.

Rapzid 7y ago

It's important to bring up. They sure make a lot of recommendations for "necessary best practices" based on bunk. Most people read articles headlines and maybe just skim some of the rest. The damage is kinda done now in that a lot of articles are gonna come out saying it could be "associated with 29%.." which to the average person reads as "Watching this causes suicide". Heck, Salt Lake City IDS "...we highly discourage students from watching this series". The mania has begun and some hand-wavy dismissal of environmental or social factors because they definitely would have increased homicide rates(except 13 Reasons Why of somehow, of course, because reasons!), and some brief, buried nod to correlation != causation doesn't make it all better.