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Levandowski is on the extreme end of the spectrum, but there's still going to be chilling effect. Lightly paraphrasing Matt Levine in Money Stuff[1] (which I p

by basseq 7y ago

Levandowski is on the extreme end of the spectrum, but there's still going to be chilling effect. Lightly paraphrasing Matt Levine in Money Stuff[1] (which I plug any chance I get), "Google is a big rich company with lots of lawyers to enforce its legal rights in civil courts: and it did so, and got a significant settlement out of Uber. It makes me a little nervous to think that big tech companies can also use the prison system to keep their engineers from competing with them." [1] https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/authors/ARbTQlRLRjE/matthew-s-levine https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/authors/ARbTQlRLRjE/matthe...

htk 7y ago
I love Matt Levine, but I think he missed the point there, as I don't see anything wrong with what Google is doing, when taking into consideration everything Levandowski did.
- perl4ever 7y ago
  What is the reason you think it should be more than a civil matter? It's certainly not obvious to everyone.
  - htk 7y ago
    IANAL but because it involves theft (of information).
    - perl4ever 7y ago
      I don't think anyone (particularly Levine who is/was a lawyer and law clerk) is saying they are in some doubt as to whether there is a criminal law this falls under. It just strikes people as wrong and kind of scary for it to be criminal and not civil. When things are stolen from ordinary people, and the police don't stumble across the act in progress, they are pretty blase. They don't say "oh, you have a dispute with someone? Well, we'll arrest them and put them in jail for a million years". You deal with it through insurance, and/or lawsuits, don't you? Because as a citizen, the police don't work for you. It feeds into the anti-corporate feelings these days in a visceral way, so one may ask "how did we get here, and what purpose does it serve?"

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Levandowski is on the extreme end of the spectrum, but there's still going to be chilling effect. Lightly paraphrasing Matt Levine in Money Stuff[1] (which I p

by basseq 7y ago

htk 7y ago
I love Matt Levine, but I think he missed the point there, as I don't see anything wrong with what Google is doing, when taking into consideration everything Levandowski did.
- perl4ever 7y ago
  What is the reason you think it should be more than a civil matter? It's certainly not obvious to everyone.
  - htk 7y ago
    IANAL but because it involves theft (of information).
    - perl4ever 7y ago
      I don't think anyone (particularly Levine who is/was a lawyer and law clerk) is saying they are in some doubt as to whether there is a criminal law this falls under. It just strikes people as wrong and kind of scary for it to be criminal and not civil. When things are stolen from ordinary people, and the police don't stumble across the act in progress, they are pretty blase. They don't say "oh, you have a dispute with someone? Well, we'll arrest them and put them in jail for a million years". You deal with it through insurance, and/or lawsuits, don't you? Because as a citizen, the police don't work for you. It feeds into the anti-corporate feelings these days in a visceral way, so one may ask "how did we get here, and what purpose does it serve?"