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Where do you live? 45 minutes is like 50-100 km up to a nearest store?

sp332 7y ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Food_desert https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Food_desert In 2010, the United States Department of Agriculture (USDA) reported that 23.5 million Americans live in "food deserts", meaning that they live more than... 10 miles from a supermarket in rural areas.
- esotericn 7y ago
  That's not really the definition of 'food desert' that I think about when I hear the term. I always figured it applied more to super-poor city dwellers. 10 miles in a rural area is nothing. Like, I'm 10 miles from the nearest town right now, and that feels pretty close.
  - Loughla 7y ago
    I'm with you on that 10 miles is nothing. I would love to have a store within 10 miles - that's biking distance even. But to me - because food deserts have a larger impact on low-income folks, I think about it in their context. If I didn't have access to a reliable form of transportation, 10 miles would be a super long way to have to travel.
    - esotericn 7y ago
      Right. I mean it's basically that the distance here is defined quite strictly when it really depends on the individual. I could be 200km from the nearest grocery store, and it'd just mean I need to stockpile a bit more, because as you say, assuming there are roads etc, I can jump in the car whenever and go there. By contrast someone who's poor and severely disabled might feel they're in a 'desert' if the nearest store is 200m away and they can't walk.
esotericn 7y ago
I just spent 3 weeks living in a small village. There was a grocery store in the town. The next one was, as you say, 50-100km away. If you lived in one of the smaller villages around here, it would be 50-100km to the store, yeah. City dweller nonsense about how it's oh-so-inconvenient to wait N minutes extra for food delivery is just funny in this context. Bunch of babies, I tell ya. :P
- kaybe 7y ago
  Are there no farmers selling fresh produce anywhere around? I'm so used to these drive-by honesty stores (take what you want - usually vegetables, fruit, eggs, milk, honey etc - and pay in the box) in rural areas.
  - esotericn 7y ago
    Not in the winter!
Loughla 7y ago
Midwest US. It's right at 40 miles from my door to the store, so like 65km?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Food_desert https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Food_desert In 2010, the United States Department of Agriculture (USDA) reported that 23.5 million Americans live in "food deserts", meaning that they live more than... 10 miles from a supermarket in rural areas.

esotericn 7y ago
That's not really the definition of 'food desert' that I think about when I hear the term. I always figured it applied more to super-poor city dwellers. 10 miles in a rural area is nothing. Like, I'm 10 miles from the nearest town right now, and that feels pretty close.
- Loughla 7y ago
  I'm with you on that 10 miles is nothing. I would love to have a store within 10 miles - that's biking distance even. But to me - because food deserts have a larger impact on low-income folks, I think about it in their context. If I didn't have access to a reliable form of transportation, 10 miles would be a super long way to have to travel.
  - esotericn 7y ago
    Right. I mean it's basically that the distance here is defined quite strictly when it really depends on the individual. I could be 200km from the nearest grocery store, and it'd just mean I need to stockpile a bit more, because as you say, assuming there are roads etc, I can jump in the car whenever and go there. By contrast someone who's poor and severely disabled might feel they're in a 'desert' if the nearest store is 200m away and they can't walk.

esotericn 7y ago

I just spent 3 weeks living in a small village. There was a grocery store in the town. The next one was, as you say, 50-100km away. If you lived in one of the smaller villages around here, it would be 50-100km to the store, yeah. City dweller nonsense about how it's oh-so-inconvenient to wait N minutes extra for food delivery is just funny in this context. Bunch of babies, I tell ya. :P

kaybe 7y ago
Are there no farmers selling fresh produce anywhere around? I'm so used to these drive-by honesty stores (take what you want - usually vegetables, fruit, eggs, milk, honey etc - and pay in the box) in rural areas.
- esotericn 7y ago
  Not in the winter!

Loughla 7y ago

Midwest US. It's right at 40 miles from my door to the store, so like 65km?