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What's the actual instance of prejudice, harassment that is being reported? I saw a lot of very serious accusations in the article (the kind that is capable of

What's the actual instance of prejudice, harassment that is being reported? I saw a lot of very serious accusations in the article (the kind that is capable of ruining a carreer), but no links or screencaps of the actual wrongdoing.

FlorianRappl 7y ago
I fully agree. I also did not see any evidence. Very confused about this whole thing now...
0xB31B1B 7y ago
The Mac girl gave a talk about how she doesn’t feel able to contribute well in tech due to people’s implicit biases and existing power systems, some people online pointed the finger at two leaders in the react community as examples of that. Over the weekend, the person who gave the talk experienced a ton of online harassment (par for course for being a woman online unfortunately) and some of the accusers really escalated what they were accusing the react devs of. I think there is likely good support in the girls original talk, an implicit understanding in JS land that the react community is has some deep bro encoding (bro meaning weightlifting, video games etc, not politics and hatred), and a misunderstanding that a deep bro encoding doesn’t mean you’re alt right trump supporters but it does mean that a “non bro” might have a hard time fitting in and experience relatively more harassment in that community than in others.
- cpr 7y ago
  Please don't perpetuate lazy SJW "alt right" = "Trump supporters" memes.
- repolfx 7y ago
  She wasn't getting abuse because she was a woman, she was getting abuse because she's a feminist picking fights with all men, and engaging in nasty witch-hunt behaviours. Literally, "men are biased against women even if they say they aren't and even if nobody can prove it". Men who promote that sort of hard left identity politics get lots of abuse too, which is fair game because it's about their opinions and not their identity.

FlorianRappl 7y ago

I fully agree. I also did not see any evidence. Very confused about this whole thing now...

0xB31B1B 7y ago

The Mac girl gave a talk about how she doesn’t feel able to contribute well in tech due to people’s implicit biases and existing power systems, some people online pointed the finger at two leaders in the react community as examples of that. Over the weekend, the person who gave the talk experienced a ton of online harassment (par for course for being a woman online unfortunately) and some of the accusers really escalated what they were accusing the react devs of. I think there is likely good support in the girls original talk, an implicit understanding in JS land that the react community is has some deep bro encoding (bro meaning weightlifting, video games etc, not politics and hatred), and a misunderstanding that a deep bro encoding doesn’t mean you’re alt right trump supporters but it does mean that a “non bro” might have a hard time fitting in and experience relatively more harassment in that community than in others.

cpr 7y ago
Please don't perpetuate lazy SJW "alt right" = "Trump supporters" memes.
repolfx 7y ago
She wasn't getting abuse because she was a woman, she was getting abuse because she's a feminist picking fights with all men, and engaging in nasty witch-hunt behaviours. Literally, "men are biased against women even if they say they aren't and even if nobody can prove it". Men who promote that sort of hard left identity politics get lots of abuse too, which is fair game because it's about their opinions and not their identity.