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It's a fact that many Leave Voters did not expect a no-deal under any circumstances. Even the excuse that they need that option to get a deal presupposes that t
by bayesian_horse 7y ago
It's a fact that many Leave Voters did not expect a no-deal under any circumstances. Even the excuse that they need that option to get a deal presupposes that they don't want a no-deal and don't expect it to happen.
The scenario of the EU trying to "torture" the UK with a few month of third-country status is even more absurd, because that presupposes that the EU has no significant disadvantages from withholding a deal, rendering the "leverage" of the no-deal option void.
And even then this argument is still wrong: There is no requirement for a no-deal option to have lots of leverage in the negotiation, and even with the no-deal on the table the UK didn't get anywhere near the deal they wanted, proving the leave-campaign to be extremely naive or outright liers.
And no, the leave-campaign never acknowledged or promoted, before the referendum, that the UK is getting half of it back. They explicitly stated, time and time again "let's put that money into the NHS". Which was impossible back then and oh, look! it's still not possible today. By my standards that's clearly a lie.
But Putin, who also financed and supported the leave campaign, likes all those options. Total Chaos in No-deal Brexit is probably his favorite option, though.
- thinkingemote 7y agoThis submission has been flagged killed. I suspect that your multiple replies to several different comments may have contributed towards this automated or manual action.
- bayesian_horse 7y agoApparently some people flag/down-vote me because they don't like the facts. Because if they were convinced I had my facts wrong, they would reply to set the record straight, right?
- nailer 7y agoReplied as an edit. To be honest though I suspect most people don't bother debating Brexit anymore because there was a referendum on the topic in 2016