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The leave-campaign wasn't noted for moderate calm-headed journalism, nor were the boulevard magazines which created the sentiment against immigrants and the EU

The leave-campaign wasn't noted for moderate calm-headed journalism, nor were the boulevard magazines which created the sentiment against immigrants and the EU in the first place ever calm-headed and moderate.

enriquto 7y ago
Seen from the outside, both sides of this political dialogue sound equally bigoted and ridiculous. This is sad because (as an european who doesn't want the UK to leave), the "remainer" bigotry is a relatively recent phenomenon that seems completely unnecessary, and even contrary to the cause it deems to support.
- bayesian_horse 7y ago
  Can you substantiate "bigotry" or are you satisfied with just dropping the insult? There is no refutation that the current Brexit plans will result at best in temporary Chaos and a recession, at worst a permanent damage to the UK economy. Banks are already leaving. EU Academics are leaving in droves. Companies in the UK are holding back investments. So the small part of the Remainers' predictions which haven't come true already are quite on track to coming true in the near future.
  - enriquto 7y ago
    > Can you substantiate "bigotry" or are you satisfied with just dropping the insult? The title of this article on Prospect Magazine is a crystal clear example of that. I agree that brexit will probably have bad economic consequences. Yet, openly calling the brexiters "nazis" is an insult to intelligence and an example of bigotry, besides being really counter-productive. Imagine that you are a "moderate" brexiter, not fanatically sure about it. Then you see an army of journalists that call you a nazi because of that. Will this steer you away from wanting the brexit?
    - bayesian_horse 7y ago
      You may have a read a different article. The one I read does not call the Brexiteers "Nazis" and does not reveal any political bias. It's just that stating the facts makes it look like you are against Brexit, because, well, it is a total mess.

enriquto 7y ago

Seen from the outside, both sides of this political dialogue sound equally bigoted and ridiculous. This is sad because (as an european who doesn't want the UK to leave), the "remainer" bigotry is a relatively recent phenomenon that seems completely unnecessary, and even contrary to the cause it deems to support.

bayesian_horse 7y ago
Can you substantiate "bigotry" or are you satisfied with just dropping the insult? There is no refutation that the current Brexit plans will result at best in temporary Chaos and a recession, at worst a permanent damage to the UK economy. Banks are already leaving. EU Academics are leaving in droves. Companies in the UK are holding back investments. So the small part of the Remainers' predictions which haven't come true already are quite on track to coming true in the near future.
- enriquto 7y ago
  > Can you substantiate "bigotry" or are you satisfied with just dropping the insult? The title of this article on Prospect Magazine is a crystal clear example of that. I agree that brexit will probably have bad economic consequences. Yet, openly calling the brexiters "nazis" is an insult to intelligence and an example of bigotry, besides being really counter-productive. Imagine that you are a "moderate" brexiter, not fanatically sure about it. Then you see an army of journalists that call you a nazi because of that. Will this steer you away from wanting the brexit?
  - bayesian_horse 7y ago
    You may have a read a different article. The one I read does not call the Brexiteers "Nazis" and does not reveal any political bias. It's just that stating the facts makes it look like you are against Brexit, because, well, it is a total mess.