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People who haven't done drugs don't really have the right to talk about drugs. It's like people who haven't done sky diving trying to make laws againt sky div

People who haven't done drugs don't really have the right to talk about drugs. It's like people who haven't done sky diving trying to make laws againt sky diving. Rich people do drugs too but it's always when poor people do it it's somehow bad.

hos234 7y ago
Have you actually dealt with people on drugs? Do you know how it effects their families?
- foobar_ 7y ago
  Doesn't really affect my rich friends much. They call it their youthful phase before they go onto better things in life.
pvaldes 7y ago
> People who haven't done drugs don't really have the right to talk about drugs. This is an absurd argument, obviously. This would be like saying that pedestrians hit by a car don't really have the right to talk about regulating cars because they can't understand the power that you feel when you drove your car. Drugs do not affect only to people doing drugs.
- foobar_ 7y ago
  When on earth have we had a conversation about regulating drugs? Yes, cars should be banned. People who have sex make loud noises ... so sex should be banned.
  - pvaldes 7y ago
    > When on earth have we had a conversation about regulating drugs? A few lines above, when you put as example "would be like trying to make laws against sky diving without experiencing sky diving". Making laws = regulating I never talked about banning sex, or cars, I said that even people that do not drive can (and will) have a word about regulating car use, in their own interest, and also for the public interest. Same for drug use. Regulating is not the same as banning, so please don't put words in my mouth trying to reduce the conversation to absurd. Is a cheap trick.
    - foobar_ 7y ago
      Do you even have a point to make other than ... you don't really like people doing them? Drugs are not regulated but are illegal. If you don't understand the difference between regulating and illegality ... you are so intelligent.
      - pvaldes 7y ago
        > you don't understand the difference between regulating and illegality illegal ∈ regulated > Drugs are not regulated but are illegal Drugs are strongly regulated (ask your pharmacist) AND some of them are strongly regulated AND are also illegal Illegal by definition means that there was a regulation that created this status. Those drugs would be alegal otherwise. Regulated means that for some special cases the use is allowed, even if is not ok for a recreational uses. A physicist can have solid reasons to give a morphine derivative to somebody in a perfectly legal situation
        AstralStorm 7y ago
        Yes, and heroin too, or fentanyl. So they're not exactly illegal. Some other classes of drugs are totally illegal for use in humans. (Limited to research only with extra hoops.) Not opiates. Examples include: LSD, MDMA (changing), PCP, Psylocybin, Psilocin, Muscarine, a bunch of chemically similar drugs and a few other hallucinogens. THC and CBD were in this class and are now legal in some countries and states of USA.

hos234 7y ago

Have you actually dealt with people on drugs? Do you know how it effects their families?

foobar_ 7y ago
Doesn't really affect my rich friends much. They call it their youthful phase before they go onto better things in life.

pvaldes 7y ago

> People who haven't done drugs don't really have the right to talk about drugs. This is an absurd argument, obviously. This would be like saying that pedestrians hit by a car don't really have the right to talk about regulating cars because they can't understand the power that you feel when you drove your car. Drugs do not affect only to people doing drugs.

foobar_ 7y ago
When on earth have we had a conversation about regulating drugs? Yes, cars should be banned. People who have sex make loud noises ... so sex should be banned.
- pvaldes 7y ago
  > When on earth have we had a conversation about regulating drugs? A few lines above, when you put as example "would be like trying to make laws against sky diving without experiencing sky diving". Making laws = regulating I never talked about banning sex, or cars, I said that even people that do not drive can (and will) have a word about regulating car use, in their own interest, and also for the public interest. Same for drug use. Regulating is not the same as banning, so please don't put words in my mouth trying to reduce the conversation to absurd. Is a cheap trick.
  - foobar_ 7y ago
    Do you even have a point to make other than ... you don't really like people doing them? Drugs are not regulated but are illegal. If you don't understand the difference between regulating and illegality ... you are so intelligent.
    - pvaldes 7y ago
      > you don't understand the difference between regulating and illegality illegal ∈ regulated > Drugs are not regulated but are illegal Drugs are strongly regulated (ask your pharmacist) AND some of them are strongly regulated AND are also illegal Illegal by definition means that there was a regulation that created this status. Those drugs would be alegal otherwise. Regulated means that for some special cases the use is allowed, even if is not ok for a recreational uses. A physicist can have solid reasons to give a morphine derivative to somebody in a perfectly legal situation
      - AstralStorm 7y ago
        Yes, and heroin too, or fentanyl. So they're not exactly illegal. Some other classes of drugs are totally illegal for use in humans. (Limited to research only with extra hoops.) Not opiates. Examples include: LSD, MDMA (changing), PCP, Psylocybin, Psilocin, Muscarine, a bunch of chemically similar drugs and a few other hallucinogens. THC and CBD were in this class and are now legal in some countries and states of USA.