Apologies, I got many replies at the same time (a minute after I posted my initial message). My point was against: > Also given that China has to actively prev

Apologies, I got many replies at the same time (a minute after I posted my initial message). My point was against: > Also given that China has to actively prevent the Uyghur from leaving, while the West has to prevent immigrants from entering, should tell you who's treated worse. Which you didn't type but deogeo. > It is entirely morally consistent to both argue for fair treatment of people in the west, and advocate it for people in China. Agreed with this and everything else you say. My initial point was shifting the conversation away from "pro democratic or anti democratic" into holding people accounting for human right violations. If a political system makes it hard to hold people accountable than that's what we should talk about. Which one is worse is a bikeshedding discussion which I didn't intend to start with my initial comment.