Some of the "subsidies" are inherent in the services themselves though. At the top of this thread was a quote about the dollar value of time saved on a commute.

Some of the "subsidies" are inherent in the services themselves though. At the top of this thread was a quote about the dollar value of time saved on a commute. What's the dollar value of the 100k people taking the Caltrain from SJ to SF to the people driving on the 101? The people who have to commute by car are greatly benefit by every incremental person who takes transit and to some extent vice versa since trains are less crowded, etc. Eliminating subsidies (whatever that means) seems every bit as centrally planned and subject to great economic inefficiency as the decisions to fund transit.