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That's not true. DHS maintains a listing of what sources Apple's genuine products come from. If they don't match upon inspection, the items are seized. Please p

That's not true. DHS maintains a listing of what sources Apple's genuine products come from. If they don't match upon inspection, the items are seized. Please provide a source that shows that DHS seizes items without verifying. If they have Apple's logo on them and they're not Apple's, then they're counterfeit.

vinceguidry 7y ago
If I yank a bunch of Apple batteries from Apple phones, those batteries are genuine. They have Apple part numbers, Apple design, Apple-approved manufacturing. The only thing different is that Apple didn't actually sell them. The entity selling the parts cannot be the sole determinant of their authenticity.
- dpkonofa 7y ago
  That's not what happened, though, and I have to assume that you know that if you've even taken a casual look at any of these situations. If you take those batteries and replace a few of their cells with an inferior third party product and package them up and sell them as "Apple batteries" with the logo and everything, you'd be lying and potentially harming Apple's brand. Apple's entire case against PCKompaniet stems from the fact that the company was refurbishing Apple displays with third-party glass and digitizers (that did not meet the original specs of their OEM parts) but was not removing the Apple logo and was advertising as using genuine Apple parts. The only reason the case was dismissed by the court was that the shop agreed to remove that language from their website and advertising and the court decided that the logo was a non-issue because, if a repair was completed with the part, the logos were on the inside of the device and the consumer never sees them. There's nothing on the outside of the part that identifies it as a genuine Apple product so, if there's no advertising suggesting that, there's nothing that would give the consumer the impression that it was a genuine Apple part. There's a huge difference between selling a part from a phone, batteries included, without modifying it. It's a whole different animal to make changes and then claim it's the same part.

vinceguidry 7y ago

If I yank a bunch of Apple batteries from Apple phones, those batteries are genuine. They have Apple part numbers, Apple design, Apple-approved manufacturing. The only thing different is that Apple didn't actually sell them. The entity selling the parts cannot be the sole determinant of their authenticity.

dpkonofa 7y ago
That's not what happened, though, and I have to assume that you know that if you've even taken a casual look at any of these situations. If you take those batteries and replace a few of their cells with an inferior third party product and package them up and sell them as "Apple batteries" with the logo and everything, you'd be lying and potentially harming Apple's brand. Apple's entire case against PCKompaniet stems from the fact that the company was refurbishing Apple displays with third-party glass and digitizers (that did not meet the original specs of their OEM parts) but was not removing the Apple logo and was advertising as using genuine Apple parts. The only reason the case was dismissed by the court was that the shop agreed to remove that language from their website and advertising and the court decided that the logo was a non-issue because, if a repair was completed with the part, the logos were on the inside of the device and the consumer never sees them. There's nothing on the outside of the part that identifies it as a genuine Apple product so, if there's no advertising suggesting that, there's nothing that would give the consumer the impression that it was a genuine Apple part. There's a huge difference between selling a part from a phone, batteries included, without modifying it. It's a whole different animal to make changes and then claim it's the same part.