Sorry, I didn't phrase it well and that's definitely not what I was implying. I should really isolate my statement to Christianity. Jesus spent time with prost

Sorry, I didn't phrase it well and that's definitely not what I was implying. I should really isolate my statement to Christianity. Jesus spent time with prostitutes, thieves and the marginalized. He likely drank alcohol. He wasn't concerned with wealth (other than warning against it's trappings). And, ironically, the people he was least respectful to were the religious leaders of the time. Contrast that with the descriptions of Mr. Zeller's father and you can (hopefully) see the point I'm trying to make. His type are the only people I criticize—not because they don't live up to a standard but because (just like the leaders in Jesus' time)they create unnecessary standards for the purpose of controlling people or satisfying their own pride. I hope that explains it better. As a side, I appreciate your approach. Religion can be a hot topic and I generally avoid it on HN. When it does come up, it's nice to share views in a respectful manner.