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These are all reasonable things. Legalizing it will drastically mitigate the ability for minors to get a hold of any just as was done with the much more dangero

These are all reasonable things. Legalizing it will drastically mitigate the ability for minors to get a hold of any just as was done with the much more dangerous and deadly drug, alcohol.

HNcantBtrustd 7y ago
I remember being 20, trying to throw a party. We had to call someone 1 hour away to deliver alcohol. There was so much marijuana that it seemed both popular and unpopular.
dexterdog 7y ago
I never had a problem getting it in the 80s. Sometimes it was easier to get than booze.
- rco8786 7y ago
  I think that's what OP is saying...it's easier for kids to get than alcohol
  - dexterdog 7y ago
    I assumed he was being sarcastic
- acchow 7y ago
  Exactly. Illicit drugs are easier to acquire than legal drugs when you're underage.
  - Swenrekcah 7y ago
    Although by the same logic one could say it’s good to have cannabis rather than something worse as the fallback drug for kids that can’t buy alcohol.
  - mpalczewski 7y ago
    Where I went to highschool this had more to do with packaging and volume. Much easier to hide an eight than a fifth.
umvi 7y ago
> Legalizing it will drastically mitigate the ability for minors to get a hold of any I can't tell if you are joking or not (sorry). But I simply don't believe this. Why would legalizing it make it harder for minors to get ahold of it?
- dragonwriter 7y ago
  > Why would legalizing it make it harder for minors to get ahold of it? Legalizing increases the marginal legal risk (and thus expected cost) of selling to minors (still illegal) vs. selling to everyone else. The same is true of non-sale person-to-person distribution.
  - umvi 7y ago
    Ok, so you are saying given X minor marijuana user, it would be harder for X to obtain marijuana post legalization vs. pre legalization. That I agree with because X's dealer is willing to break the law to sell to minors while convenience store employees are less likely to. However, the point is moot because legalizing marijuana increases it's overall availability, image, and appeal and thus you'll have more minors using it overall post legalization. To illustrate my point, it would be like saying "legalizing marijuana makes it 50% harder for minors to buy it!" but leaving off the "(but also legalization would increase the number of minor users by 10000+%)" part. All it would take is for Juul to make THC pods and suddenly you have a HUGE adolescent user base essentially using marijuana overnight that didn't exist before legalization.
    - dragonwriter 7y ago
      > However, the point is moot because legalizing marijuana increases it's overall availability, image, and appeal Availability, sure; legalization is a product of image and appeal already reaching the level of legal recreational drugs, and there's no reason it would raise it beyond them. Might even reduce the forbidden fruit appeal to minors (but maybe not, because it still be forbidden for them.) > All it would take is for Juul to make THC pods Something that is unlikely, at least following the product design and marketing approach that had that effect for nicotine pods (for them or others) if the lawsuits against them for illegal marketing to children with their nicotine pods succeed.
moate 7y ago
The difficulty with this is that it's still easy enough for joe-random to grow. One of the unique properties of pot vs just about any other recreational drug is how little processing is required to get it to a consumable form. I never knew anyone making bathtub wine or processing their own heroine in HS, but I knew at least a couple kids who tended a couple pot plants. Seems like there will always be someone doing this, and minors are always going to have relatively easy access to pot.

These are all reasonable things. Legalizing it will drastically mitigate the ability for minors to get a hold of any just as was done with the much more dangerous and deadly drug, alcohol.

HNcantBtrustd 7y ago

I remember being 20, trying to throw a party. We had to call someone 1 hour away to deliver alcohol. There was so much marijuana that it seemed both popular and unpopular.

dexterdog 7y ago

I never had a problem getting it in the 80s. Sometimes it was easier to get than booze.

rco8786 7y ago
I think that's what OP is saying...it's easier for kids to get than alcohol
- dexterdog 7y ago
  I assumed he was being sarcastic
acchow 7y ago
Exactly. Illicit drugs are easier to acquire than legal drugs when you're underage.
- Swenrekcah 7y ago
  Although by the same logic one could say it’s good to have cannabis rather than something worse as the fallback drug for kids that can’t buy alcohol.
- mpalczewski 7y ago
  Where I went to highschool this had more to do with packaging and volume. Much easier to hide an eight than a fifth.

umvi 7y ago

> Legalizing it will drastically mitigate the ability for minors to get a hold of any I can't tell if you are joking or not (sorry). But I simply don't believe this. Why would legalizing it make it harder for minors to get ahold of it?

dragonwriter 7y ago
> Why would legalizing it make it harder for minors to get ahold of it? Legalizing increases the marginal legal risk (and thus expected cost) of selling to minors (still illegal) vs. selling to everyone else. The same is true of non-sale person-to-person distribution.
- umvi 7y ago
  Ok, so you are saying given X minor marijuana user, it would be harder for X to obtain marijuana post legalization vs. pre legalization. That I agree with because X's dealer is willing to break the law to sell to minors while convenience store employees are less likely to. However, the point is moot because legalizing marijuana increases it's overall availability, image, and appeal and thus you'll have more minors using it overall post legalization. To illustrate my point, it would be like saying "legalizing marijuana makes it 50% harder for minors to buy it!" but leaving off the "(but also legalization would increase the number of minor users by 10000+%)" part. All it would take is for Juul to make THC pods and suddenly you have a HUGE adolescent user base essentially using marijuana overnight that didn't exist before legalization.
  - dragonwriter 7y ago
    > However, the point is moot because legalizing marijuana increases it's overall availability, image, and appeal Availability, sure; legalization is a product of image and appeal already reaching the level of legal recreational drugs, and there's no reason it would raise it beyond them. Might even reduce the forbidden fruit appeal to minors (but maybe not, because it still be forbidden for them.) > All it would take is for Juul to make THC pods Something that is unlikely, at least following the product design and marketing approach that had that effect for nicotine pods (for them or others) if the lawsuits against them for illegal marketing to children with their nicotine pods succeed.

moate 7y ago

The difficulty with this is that it's still easy enough for joe-random to grow. One of the unique properties of pot vs just about any other recreational drug is how little processing is required to get it to a consumable form. I never knew anyone making bathtub wine or processing their own heroine in HS, but I knew at least a couple kids who tended a couple pot plants. Seems like there will always be someone doing this, and minors are always going to have relatively easy access to pot.