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Please do not require people to submit their government ID in order to withdraw their tokens, after you inserted yourself in the donation flow of creators by of

Please do not require people to submit their government ID in order to withdraw their tokens, after you inserted yourself in the donation flow of creators by offering to accept donations on their part from a priviledged UI. We use platforms which do not ask for our ID, and we would prefer if you would not reduce the probability of Brave users donating to us because they think those BAT tokens will reach us. Yes, unverified creators are marked as such, but a donation call in the browser UI is a powerful default, more so than the donation service preferred by the creator, which can only be shown as a web page.

JumpCrisscross 7y ago
> Please do not require people to submit their goverment ID in order to withdraw their tokens Not verifying ID almost certainly causes a violation of American, British and European anti-money laundering code. Disclaimer: I am not a lawyer. This is not legal advice.
- prop84u 7y ago
  So blockchain.com is breaking the law by not asking all their customers to upload their government ID and a selfie in order to withdraw the crypto they have received to a private wallet?
  - donaltroddyn 7y ago
    Blockchain.com's privacy policy states that, for anti-money laundering purposes, they'll collect: > Passport and/or national driver’s license or government-issued identification card to verify your identity (from https://www.blockchain.com/legal/privacy https://www.blockchain.com/legal/privacy). That's consistent with every other exchange I've used.
    - prop84u 7y ago
      Verification is only required to use their exchange, and not for withdrawing to a crypto wallet. Brave would be able to offer BAT withdrawals for creators in a legally sound way. https://support.blockchain.com/hc/en-us/articles/360018359871-What-Blockchain-products-require-identity-verification- https://support.blockchain.com/hc/en-us/articles/36001835987...
      - londons_explore 7y ago
        AML laws aren't anywhere near as precise as most people expect. It basicly boils down to "if bad guys use your platform, and you can't trace them, you're gonna go to prison".
    - GoblinSlayer 7y ago
      10 cents per day money laundering?
BrendanEich 7y ago
We inserted ourselves? Our users are not passive victims, they chose to send tokens, mostly ones they earned from opt-in ads we provide. Your framing is telling. Users who want to get an ad revenue share and donate anonymously do not need to KYC, note well. If you want to send p2p on a big blockchain, knock yourself out. This will do nothing to support the publishers you can see at batgrowth.com (more all the time, see batgrowth_bot on Twitter). It's a fine thing to do when you are sure of the destination address, and willing to fingerprint yourself on-chain. We never "insert ourselves" there -- no one can. That is the beauty of it. But it doesn't solve all problems.

JumpCrisscross 7y ago

> Please do not require people to submit their goverment ID in order to withdraw their tokens Not verifying ID almost certainly causes a violation of American, British and European anti-money laundering code. Disclaimer: I am not a lawyer. This is not legal advice.

prop84u 7y ago
So blockchain.com is breaking the law by not asking all their customers to upload their government ID and a selfie in order to withdraw the crypto they have received to a private wallet?
- donaltroddyn 7y ago
  Blockchain.com's privacy policy states that, for anti-money laundering purposes, they'll collect: > Passport and/or national driver’s license or government-issued identification card to verify your identity (from https://www.blockchain.com/legal/privacy https://www.blockchain.com/legal/privacy). That's consistent with every other exchange I've used.
  - prop84u 7y ago
    Verification is only required to use their exchange, and not for withdrawing to a crypto wallet. Brave would be able to offer BAT withdrawals for creators in a legally sound way. https://support.blockchain.com/hc/en-us/articles/360018359871-What-Blockchain-products-require-identity-verification- https://support.blockchain.com/hc/en-us/articles/36001835987...
    - londons_explore 7y ago
      AML laws aren't anywhere near as precise as most people expect. It basicly boils down to "if bad guys use your platform, and you can't trace them, you're gonna go to prison".
  - GoblinSlayer 7y ago
    10 cents per day money laundering?

BrendanEich 7y ago

We inserted ourselves? Our users are not passive victims, they chose to send tokens, mostly ones they earned from opt-in ads we provide. Your framing is telling. Users who want to get an ad revenue share and donate anonymously do not need to KYC, note well. If you want to send p2p on a big blockchain, knock yourself out. This will do nothing to support the publishers you can see at batgrowth.com (more all the time, see batgrowth_bot on Twitter). It's a fine thing to do when you are sure of the destination address, and willing to fingerprint yourself on-chain. We never "insert ourselves" there -- no one can. That is the beauty of it. But it doesn't solve all problems.