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I have to fill out mounds of paperwork if I receive any external income

by non-entity 7y ago

rc_hadoken 7y ago
Dumb question...how would they know unless you told them? Define external income?
- non-entity 7y ago
  Well, I think you're right in that they probably wouldn't know unless I told them (assuming it doesn't directly or indirectly encroach on my job time) I'm not sure exactly the definition of external income in my case, but I know external employment counts and I've also heard coworkers brush off 1-off side gigs because they'd have to fill out paperwork.
- jkaufmann_ 7y ago
  The age old question. I have a sneaky suspicion that most of the world runs on the "ask for forgiveness" model of things.
  - stevenmays 7y ago
    Until you get sued.
    - davismwfl 7y ago
      In this case it is a company policy, not a legal matter. Even if you signed a contract the contract has to be legal and valid under the state & federal laws governing it, the company and the person/people involved. Many companies put clauses in contracts which they know are unenforceable because lay people won't know the difference and are just fearful of being sued, hell many attorney's don't know. The companies recourse here is to terminate you for violating company policy, which could open them up to a wrongful termination suit for trying to enforce a policy that may or may not be legal in that state. The company suing the person in this case has no value nor any outcome where it is a net positive for the company, and the company knows that and they just hope you don't.
magashna 7y ago
To the IRS? Sure. To an employer? Why? It's none of their beeswax.
- mieseratte 7y ago
  > To an employer? Why? It's none of their beeswax. I work for a municipal service. It's conflict-of-interest compliance. In short, it absolutely is their beeswax.
- PeterisP 7y ago
  Probably because they signed a contract where they promise that they won't do any side gigs without express permission of the employer.
  - oiasdjfoiasd 7y ago
    Only if you got suckered into signing one. I've never, and will never sign these kinds of things. They pay me to deliver results - they don't own any aspect of my life, hours outside of work, etc.
- JustSomeNobody 7y ago
  So that when you ask for a raise, they can point to all the side cash you earn and add it to your normal pay and say meaningless stuff like, "well, you're making a lot more money already than we pay people of your position."
icedchai 7y ago
"Have to"? What country are you in?

I have to fill out mounds of paperwork if I receive any external income

rc_hadoken 7y ago

Dumb question...how would they know unless you told them? Define external income?

non-entity 7y ago
Well, I think you're right in that they probably wouldn't know unless I told them (assuming it doesn't directly or indirectly encroach on my job time) I'm not sure exactly the definition of external income in my case, but I know external employment counts and I've also heard coworkers brush off 1-off side gigs because they'd have to fill out paperwork.
jkaufmann_ 7y ago
The age old question. I have a sneaky suspicion that most of the world runs on the "ask for forgiveness" model of things.
- stevenmays 7y ago
  Until you get sued.
  - davismwfl 7y ago
    In this case it is a company policy, not a legal matter. Even if you signed a contract the contract has to be legal and valid under the state & federal laws governing it, the company and the person/people involved. Many companies put clauses in contracts which they know are unenforceable because lay people won't know the difference and are just fearful of being sued, hell many attorney's don't know. The companies recourse here is to terminate you for violating company policy, which could open them up to a wrongful termination suit for trying to enforce a policy that may or may not be legal in that state. The company suing the person in this case has no value nor any outcome where it is a net positive for the company, and the company knows that and they just hope you don't.

magashna 7y ago

To the IRS? Sure. To an employer? Why? It's none of their beeswax.

mieseratte 7y ago
> To an employer? Why? It's none of their beeswax. I work for a municipal service. It's conflict-of-interest compliance. In short, it absolutely is their beeswax.
PeterisP 7y ago
Probably because they signed a contract where they promise that they won't do any side gigs without express permission of the employer.
- oiasdjfoiasd 7y ago
  Only if you got suckered into signing one. I've never, and will never sign these kinds of things. They pay me to deliver results - they don't own any aspect of my life, hours outside of work, etc.
JustSomeNobody 7y ago
So that when you ask for a raise, they can point to all the side cash you earn and add it to your normal pay and say meaningless stuff like, "well, you're making a lot more money already than we pay people of your position."

icedchai 7y ago

"Have to"? What country are you in?