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>It’s a phone where you might save $20. It’s not like it’s the right to vote.... You can thank them the next time you get your car fixed without buying a new c

>It’s a phone where you might save $20. It’s not like it’s the right to vote.... You can thank them the next time you get your car fixed without buying a new car. >And when Apple doesn’t approve a repair shop there will be another uproar about Apple “gatekeeping” repair shops.... We don't want them to approve anything. The iPhone isn't some magical unicorn. Its a box that contains components purchased from suppliers around the world. Apple forces the suppliers to not provide parts to repair shops. They use DRM in random components that have nothing to do with security so that repair shops doing basic repair have to beg Apple to "activate" the new components.

scarface74 7y ago
So do you really want a random supplier installing the Secure Enclave that verifies your biometric Data and ensures a secure wipe and encrypts your user data? Have you ever had a repaired phone with a faulty touch screen?
- la_barba 7y ago
  Err.. even on my PC with a TPM chip that has biometric data, I can replace the RAM, GPU, CPU or any other component without a problem. People need to think critically with a technical mind, instead of simply accepting Apples fairytales. But all that aside, people are free to repurchase a new phone or get the entire motherboard replaced when a $0.50 component fails on their phone. I and many others prefer to repair it and save money. And not to mention .. reduce the e-waste burden on our planet as a bonus.
  - scarface74 7y ago
    So now you want Apple to design their system on a chip where the gpu and cpu can be replaced separately? Where can I buy an off the shelf Apple designed Ax chip?
    - la_barba 7y ago
      That is ridiculous. Nobody said that. Sorry, this conversation is no longer productive for either of us. I prefer to have more rights, and not less, for the consumer. You can make up your own mind. Good bye and have a nice day.
      - scarface74 7y ago
        That’s the entire point. As Apple integrates more stuff, by its nature it’s harder to replace. Ifixit was even bemoaning when it was harder to replace the screen when the pixels were fused to the glass around 2010. Soon, the cellular radio will probably be a part of the SOC along with the processor and GPU when Apple’s acquisition of Intel’s modem division starts to see results. We are already seeing third party suppliers with shoddy screens that don’t work as well and battery replacements that lie about their lifecycle. If you really want to use the car analogy as others have, how easy is it to get third party repairs for high end cars or Tesla’s?

scarface74 7y ago

So do you really want a random supplier installing the Secure Enclave that verifies your biometric Data and ensures a secure wipe and encrypts your user data? Have you ever had a repaired phone with a faulty touch screen?

la_barba 7y ago
Err.. even on my PC with a TPM chip that has biometric data, I can replace the RAM, GPU, CPU or any other component without a problem. People need to think critically with a technical mind, instead of simply accepting Apples fairytales. But all that aside, people are free to repurchase a new phone or get the entire motherboard replaced when a $0.50 component fails on their phone. I and many others prefer to repair it and save money. And not to mention .. reduce the e-waste burden on our planet as a bonus.
- scarface74 7y ago
  So now you want Apple to design their system on a chip where the gpu and cpu can be replaced separately? Where can I buy an off the shelf Apple designed Ax chip?
  - la_barba 7y ago
    That is ridiculous. Nobody said that. Sorry, this conversation is no longer productive for either of us. I prefer to have more rights, and not less, for the consumer. You can make up your own mind. Good bye and have a nice day.
    - scarface74 7y ago
      That’s the entire point. As Apple integrates more stuff, by its nature it’s harder to replace. Ifixit was even bemoaning when it was harder to replace the screen when the pixels were fused to the glass around 2010. Soon, the cellular radio will probably be a part of the SOC along with the processor and GPU when Apple’s acquisition of Intel’s modem division starts to see results. We are already seeing third party suppliers with shoddy screens that don’t work as well and battery replacements that lie about their lifecycle. If you really want to use the car analogy as others have, how easy is it to get third party repairs for high end cars or Tesla’s?