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Not entirely clear what _policy_ exactly means, does it mean Uber will pay the minimum wage or it wants the government to pay that? (I am not from U.S. so its u

Not entirely clear what _policy_ exactly means, does it mean Uber will pay the minimum wage or it wants the government to pay that? (I am not from U.S. so its unclear how it works) I guess, its the government, since people drive for both lyft and uber.

mrosett 7y ago
In context it must be a governmental policy
- jld 7y ago
  Generally the government does not pay/augment wages for companies in the US.
  - koube 7y ago
    I think the person you're replying to is implying that one company cannot just pay their workers a super high wage without losing to its competitors. Competition will keep the wages as low as possible so this change must be done at the systemic level so that Uber and all of its competitors have to make this change at the same time. The only forseeable way to do this is government policy.
azinman2 7y ago
Minimum wage applies to what the companies pay an individual, not the government paying people.
kingbirdy 7y ago
It's a proposal for a law that requires all ride-sharing companies to pay that wage to their drivers.
- skyyler 7y ago
  Now I understand why Uber would want this, thanks.
toast0 7y ago
(Some of) the drivers are advocating for a (California) government policy (law) that would make drivers be treated as employees and therefore require their employers to pay minimum wage while on duty, have regulated minimum and maximum shifts with regulated breaks, etc etc. Uber is saying don't do that, instead proposing a new government policy (laws or regulation) of a minimum rate of $21/hour while providing a ride. Like minimum wage, this would be paid by the employer/client, but the government sets a price floor. Note that how this compares to minimum wage for employees depends entirely on the occupancy rate for the vehicle: if you've only got a fare for half of the minutes in a hour, that's $10.50/hour which is under the 2019 California minimum wage of $12 or $11 for small employers.
- mkagenius 7y ago
  Thanks. I get it now. The amount seems on the lower end then since it is against the actual time spent driving and not the time you are online?
  - toast0 7y ago
    Yes, but the headline rate of $21/hr sounds better than minimum wage.
- davinic 7y ago
  AND your own gas, maintenance, and depreciation would come out of your $10.50.

mrosett 7y ago

In context it must be a governmental policy

jld 7y ago
Generally the government does not pay/augment wages for companies in the US.
- koube 7y ago
  I think the person you're replying to is implying that one company cannot just pay their workers a super high wage without losing to its competitors. Competition will keep the wages as low as possible so this change must be done at the systemic level so that Uber and all of its competitors have to make this change at the same time. The only forseeable way to do this is government policy.

azinman2 7y ago

Minimum wage applies to what the companies pay an individual, not the government paying people.

kingbirdy 7y ago

It's a proposal for a law that requires all ride-sharing companies to pay that wage to their drivers.

skyyler 7y ago
Now I understand why Uber would want this, thanks.

toast0 7y ago

(Some of) the drivers are advocating for a (California) government policy (law) that would make drivers be treated as employees and therefore require their employers to pay minimum wage while on duty, have regulated minimum and maximum shifts with regulated breaks, etc etc. Uber is saying don't do that, instead proposing a new government policy (laws or regulation) of a minimum rate of $21/hour while providing a ride. Like minimum wage, this would be paid by the employer/client, but the government sets a price floor. Note that how this compares to minimum wage for employees depends entirely on the occupancy rate for the vehicle: if you've only got a fare for half of the minutes in a hour, that's $10.50/hour which is under the 2019 California minimum wage of $12 or $11 for small employers.

mkagenius 7y ago
Thanks. I get it now. The amount seems on the lower end then since it is against the actual time spent driving and not the time you are online?
- toast0 7y ago
  Yes, but the headline rate of $21/hr sounds better than minimum wage.
davinic 7y ago
AND your own gas, maintenance, and depreciation would come out of your $10.50.