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Uphold is working hard to acquire the bitlicense for New York. They shared on Twitter earlier this month that they hope to have this resolved soon. It's worth

Uphold is working hard to acquire the bitlicense for New York. They shared on Twitter earlier this month that they hope to have this resolved soon. It's worth noting that Creators also have a referral program whereby $5 in BAT can be earned for each user brought to the Brave platform. brave.com/refer Thank you for your incredible patience and participation. We hope to see positive developments on the bitlicense front soon. Please do let us know if there is ever anything we can do for you in the interim.

xur17 7y ago
Are there any plans to get rid of uphold on the publisher side and allow external wallets? It was a huge turn off to me when I signed up.
- BrendanEich 7y ago
  We need a regulated entity to do directed (tips, recurring), user-anonymous, off-chain transactions, and to comply with OFAC and other hard regulations. We can't do it ourselves. Wallet is the least of the issue, even if the publisher were willing to take BAT. Our future phase (Apollo) blockchain work will move more txns on-chain but not solve all regulatory problems. No blockchain can do that unless you are using p2p directly, and then on the current big chains you don't have anonymity or low fees. This may change, we're working on it.
  - prop84u 7y ago
    Please do not require people to submit their government ID in order to withdraw their tokens, after you inserted yourself in the donation flow of creators by offering to accept donations on their part from a priviledged UI. We use platforms which do not ask for our ID, and we would prefer if you would not reduce the probability of Brave users donating to us because they think those BAT tokens will reach us. Yes, unverified creators are marked as such, but a donation call in the browser UI is a powerful default, more so than the donation service preferred by the creator, which can only be shown as a web page.
    - JumpCrisscross 7y ago
      > Please do not require people to submit their goverment ID in order to withdraw their tokens Not verifying ID almost certainly causes a violation of American, British and European anti-money laundering code. Disclaimer: I am not a lawyer. This is not legal advice.
      - prop84u 7y ago
        So blockchain.com is breaking the law by not asking all their customers to upload their government ID and a selfie in order to withdraw the crypto they have received to a private wallet?
        donaltroddyn 7y ago
        Blockchain.com's privacy policy states that, for anti-money laundering purposes, they'll collect: > Passport and/or national driver’s license or government-issued identification card to verify your identity (from https://www.blockchain.com/legal/privacy https://www.blockchain.com/legal/privacy). That's consistent with every other exchange I've used.
        prop84u 7y ago
        Verification is only required to use their exchange, and not for withdrawing to a crypto wallet. Brave would be able to offer BAT withdrawals for creators in a legally sound way. https://support.blockchain.com/hc/en-us/articles/360018359871-What-Blockchain-products-require-identity-verification- https://support.blockchain.com/hc/en-us/articles/36001835987...
        londons_explore 7y ago
        AML laws aren't anywhere near as precise as most people expect. It basicly boils down to "if bad guys use your platform, and you can't trace them, you're gonna go to prison".
        7y ago
JohnTHaller 7y ago
Thanks for the details jonathan, but the referral program is a bad fit for PortableApps.com. Brave isn't interested in our standardized portable software format (download, install, auto-update, and manage hundreds of real apps in one system using an open format and open source tools). And the browser's 'portable mode' itself isn't actually portable. In fairness, though, all Chrome-ish browsers are broken portably.

xur17 7y ago

Are there any plans to get rid of uphold on the publisher side and allow external wallets? It was a huge turn off to me when I signed up.

BrendanEich 7y ago
We need a regulated entity to do directed (tips, recurring), user-anonymous, off-chain transactions, and to comply with OFAC and other hard regulations. We can't do it ourselves. Wallet is the least of the issue, even if the publisher were willing to take BAT. Our future phase (Apollo) blockchain work will move more txns on-chain but not solve all regulatory problems. No blockchain can do that unless you are using p2p directly, and then on the current big chains you don't have anonymity or low fees. This may change, we're working on it.
- prop84u 7y ago
  Please do not require people to submit their government ID in order to withdraw their tokens, after you inserted yourself in the donation flow of creators by offering to accept donations on their part from a priviledged UI. We use platforms which do not ask for our ID, and we would prefer if you would not reduce the probability of Brave users donating to us because they think those BAT tokens will reach us. Yes, unverified creators are marked as such, but a donation call in the browser UI is a powerful default, more so than the donation service preferred by the creator, which can only be shown as a web page.
  - JumpCrisscross 7y ago
    > Please do not require people to submit their goverment ID in order to withdraw their tokens Not verifying ID almost certainly causes a violation of American, British and European anti-money laundering code. Disclaimer: I am not a lawyer. This is not legal advice.
    - prop84u 7y ago
      So blockchain.com is breaking the law by not asking all their customers to upload their government ID and a selfie in order to withdraw the crypto they have received to a private wallet?
      - donaltroddyn 7y ago
        Blockchain.com's privacy policy states that, for anti-money laundering purposes, they'll collect: > Passport and/or national driver’s license or government-issued identification card to verify your identity (from https://www.blockchain.com/legal/privacy https://www.blockchain.com/legal/privacy). That's consistent with every other exchange I've used.
        prop84u 7y ago
        Verification is only required to use their exchange, and not for withdrawing to a crypto wallet. Brave would be able to offer BAT withdrawals for creators in a legally sound way. https://support.blockchain.com/hc/en-us/articles/360018359871-What-Blockchain-products-require-identity-verification- https://support.blockchain.com/hc/en-us/articles/36001835987...
        londons_explore 7y ago
        AML laws aren't anywhere near as precise as most people expect. It basicly boils down to "if bad guys use your platform, and you can't trace them, you're gonna go to prison".
        7y ago

JohnTHaller 7y ago

Thanks for the details jonathan, but the referral program is a bad fit for PortableApps.com. Brave isn't interested in our standardized portable software format (download, install, auto-update, and manage hundreds of real apps in one system using an open format and open source tools). And the browser's 'portable mode' itself isn't actually portable. In fairness, though, all Chrome-ish browsers are broken portably.