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People hate on Joe Rogan but I think he is an excellent host, the podcast has people from all perspectives on and he manages not to offend any of them, most com

People hate on Joe Rogan but I think he is an excellent host, the podcast has people from all perspectives on and he manages not to offend any of them, most come on subsequent episodes. I'll take a Rogan interview over some opinionated bullshit clip from CNN/MSNBC/FOX.

stronglikedan 7y ago
People hate on him because he's an excellent host, and his lack of "outrage" on controversial topics goes against the fiber of their beings.
- bananocurrency 7y ago
  Ah yes, people dislike him because he's too good! Not because he enables nationalists for revenue and prods conspiracy theories. No way! He's just an average Joe like us! Him hosting Fear Factor reminded me of my reality TV hosting days.
  - quantdev 7y ago
    Why shouldn't we hear what nationalists have to say? Who gets to decide what is a conspiracy theory? They're not all as simply false as flat earth. Keto in the low-fat 90s would have been a conspiracy theory and a culture of censorship would have killed it. We need many groups of people believing different things and civilly arguing for what's correct. We don't need de-platforming or cancelling - that can only lead to groupthink and groupthink is incredibly dangerous: see the housing crisis or the Nazis.
- drngdds 7y ago
  What you call a "lack of outrage on controversial topics" would be more accurately called "unwillingness to seriously challenge the terrible ideas he gives a platform to"
  - proc0 7y ago
    His job is not to challenge his guest's ideas, it is precisely to give them a platform. Weak people are afraid of ideas and thus dislike this very notion.
    - quantdev 7y ago
      Agreed. I don't want to see hosts challenging their guests' ideas. I appreciate Sean Carrol's physics podcasts for exactly the same reason: he doesn't always agree with his guest's interpretation of quantum mechanics or understanding of consciousness, but he does not argue with them - he helps them present their best case. If you want to see guests arguing with their hosts, well that's a form of entertainment you can get on cable.
    - smacktoward 7y ago
      > Weak people are afraid of ideas And weak guests advocating weak ideas are afraid of hosts who will challenge them. So I guess Rogan's show is the ideal venue for them.
- kharak 7y ago
  Excellently put. He's the perfect host for me. Just presenting and exploring thoughts and ideas.
Taylor_OD 7y ago
He is a good host. The hate he gets is from bringing up the same topics over and over and hosting unlikable people. Bringing up the same topics is likely because he has so much content that there is going to be repeat work. Bringing on guests that many other shows wouldn't have has resulted in him being called being a mouthpiece for the alt-right. I've heard him called a gateway into the alt right.
- bartread 7y ago
  > The hate he gets is from bringing up the same topics over and over and hosting unlikable people. I think this is it. I'm a semi-regular listener, and think Joe is generally a great host, but too much of his podcast becomes like inhaling car exhaust fumes due to the nuttiness of some of the guests. > Bringing on guests that many other shows wouldn't have has resulted in him being called being a mouthpiece for the alt-right. I've heard him called a gateway into the alt right. Which I think is unfair because he tends to host people from across the political spectrum. I mean there are the extreme examples, like Alex Jones, but there are also plenty of at least vaguely sane people who lean right. And then, for every one of them, you'll find a Bernie Sanders, or a Jon Ronson coming on. There are a lot (or at least it feels that way) of conspiracy theory/UFO-nut guests, but that stuff can be fascinating (to a point) regardless of whether or not you actually buy into it. With that said I do have to be in the right kind of mood otherwise the slew of bullshit these people spew will simply infuriate, rather than entertain, me.
honkycat 7y ago
I tend to like Joe Rogan even though some of his guests are on the opposite end of the political spectrum as me. Right now the hyper-sensitive, take everything way too seriously, you are either with us or against us zealots are speaking for everyone who considers themselves progressive. It will wane eventually, just like the satanic panic of the 80s. And I say this as a person who considers them self a feminist and hyper progressive. That being said: I don't like Joe Rogan giving a platform to Alex Jones. I think that man is reprehensible. He is a tragedy exploiting ghoul. He whipped up a fervor around the "sandy hook is a false flag" conspiracy theory, harassed the families of the survivors, and laugh his way all the way to the bank while doing it. Alex Jones is a bad person and has done bad things.

stronglikedan 7y ago

People hate on him because he's an excellent host, and his lack of "outrage" on controversial topics goes against the fiber of their beings.

bananocurrency 7y ago
Ah yes, people dislike him because he's too good! Not because he enables nationalists for revenue and prods conspiracy theories. No way! He's just an average Joe like us! Him hosting Fear Factor reminded me of my reality TV hosting days.
- quantdev 7y ago
  Why shouldn't we hear what nationalists have to say? Who gets to decide what is a conspiracy theory? They're not all as simply false as flat earth. Keto in the low-fat 90s would have been a conspiracy theory and a culture of censorship would have killed it. We need many groups of people believing different things and civilly arguing for what's correct. We don't need de-platforming or cancelling - that can only lead to groupthink and groupthink is incredibly dangerous: see the housing crisis or the Nazis.
drngdds 7y ago
What you call a "lack of outrage on controversial topics" would be more accurately called "unwillingness to seriously challenge the terrible ideas he gives a platform to"
- proc0 7y ago
  His job is not to challenge his guest's ideas, it is precisely to give them a platform. Weak people are afraid of ideas and thus dislike this very notion.
  - quantdev 7y ago
    Agreed. I don't want to see hosts challenging their guests' ideas. I appreciate Sean Carrol's physics podcasts for exactly the same reason: he doesn't always agree with his guest's interpretation of quantum mechanics or understanding of consciousness, but he does not argue with them - he helps them present their best case. If you want to see guests arguing with their hosts, well that's a form of entertainment you can get on cable.
  - smacktoward 7y ago
    > Weak people are afraid of ideas And weak guests advocating weak ideas are afraid of hosts who will challenge them. So I guess Rogan's show is the ideal venue for them.
kharak 7y ago
Excellently put. He's the perfect host for me. Just presenting and exploring thoughts and ideas.

Taylor_OD 7y ago

He is a good host. The hate he gets is from bringing up the same topics over and over and hosting unlikable people. Bringing up the same topics is likely because he has so much content that there is going to be repeat work. Bringing on guests that many other shows wouldn't have has resulted in him being called being a mouthpiece for the alt-right. I've heard him called a gateway into the alt right.

bartread 7y ago
> The hate he gets is from bringing up the same topics over and over and hosting unlikable people. I think this is it. I'm a semi-regular listener, and think Joe is generally a great host, but too much of his podcast becomes like inhaling car exhaust fumes due to the nuttiness of some of the guests. > Bringing on guests that many other shows wouldn't have has resulted in him being called being a mouthpiece for the alt-right. I've heard him called a gateway into the alt right. Which I think is unfair because he tends to host people from across the political spectrum. I mean there are the extreme examples, like Alex Jones, but there are also plenty of at least vaguely sane people who lean right. And then, for every one of them, you'll find a Bernie Sanders, or a Jon Ronson coming on. There are a lot (or at least it feels that way) of conspiracy theory/UFO-nut guests, but that stuff can be fascinating (to a point) regardless of whether or not you actually buy into it. With that said I do have to be in the right kind of mood otherwise the slew of bullshit these people spew will simply infuriate, rather than entertain, me.

honkycat 7y ago

I tend to like Joe Rogan even though some of his guests are on the opposite end of the political spectrum as me. Right now the hyper-sensitive, take everything way too seriously, you are either with us or against us zealots are speaking for everyone who considers themselves progressive. It will wane eventually, just like the satanic panic of the 80s. And I say this as a person who considers them self a feminist and hyper progressive. That being said: I don't like Joe Rogan giving a platform to Alex Jones. I think that man is reprehensible. He is a tragedy exploiting ghoul. He whipped up a fervor around the "sandy hook is a false flag" conspiracy theory, harassed the families of the survivors, and laugh his way all the way to the bank while doing it. Alex Jones is a bad person and has done bad things.