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If you read up on the program it's more geared towards allowing customers to fix their own issues, and less of "lets go back to reliance on independent repair s

by r00fus 7y ago

If you read up on the program it's more geared towards allowing customers to fix their own issues, and less of "lets go back to reliance on independent repair stores". It also tells me Apple is comfortable enough with their services revenue to stop desperately pushing for increasing device sales every quarter. I have a 3 year old phone (iPhone7+) but barring some really new awesome features I'd be happy to continue spending on the Apple ecosystem (music, apps, subscriptions, etc) and service the old phone - though if the new offering is nice, I would probably upgrade too.

whalesalad 7y ago
The performance boost you will see from an upgrade will blow your mind.
- saagarjha 7y ago
  iPhone 7+ is a pretty capable phone. - Sent from my iPhone SE
- r00fus 7y ago
  I dunno, I used to log several hundred hours of calls alone in a month on my iPhone (for work mainly) but now it's a lot less. I'm not thrilled about FaceID.
  - kshacker 7y ago
    So you cut down your phone use because of FaceID? Did your needs change or did you start using a second device or something?
- dzhiurgis 7y ago
  Current iPhones are on par with 2018 MacBooks and shreds quad-core i7 2017 MacBooks. It's mind blowing.
  - michaelmrose 7y ago
    Citation needed. Laptops can have faster storage and much higher thermal and battery budgets especially when plugged in. I expect you are going to cite something that shows an artificial benchmark run for 3 seconds.
    - dzhiurgis 7y ago
      https://browser.geekbench.com/ios_devices/56 https://browser.geekbench.com/ios_devices/56 https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/search?dir=desc&q=macbook+2017+i7&sort=multicore_score https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/search?dir=desc&q=macbo...
      - michaelmrose 7y ago
        It's an artificial benchmark running for a short duration. The fact that it boils a complex topic down to a singular number should be your first indication that its nonsense. I think Geekbench is what Tiobe is to programming language rankings or Fox news is to objective news coverage. If you can't run the same tasks on the same OS you probably can't objectively compare them in a meaningful way. Lack of good data however doesn't excuse using bad data. After absorbing bad data you actually know less than when you started because you think you have objective analysis.
        dzhiurgis 7y ago
        I've witnessed that myself by running Octane JS benchmark. I think that's pretty good indicator for most smartphone applications. I agree, storage speed is probably appalling - you still can't sync your iPhone over USB 3.0 - takes half a day to do so after a vacation... Even after that you can't deny transistor count and numbers we have. If you have better ones - do present them.
        michaelmrose 7y ago
        Not having good numbers doesn't suggest we ought to accept bad ones. If you have nothing to eat you don't eat right then you don't eat dirt. We aren't discussing smartphone applications. The topic of discussion was whether current generation iphones are on par with 2018 Macbooks. I think the practical answer is that the cpu on the phone is inherently limited by battery/heat/storage speed in actual usage. If the poster had simply said "felt as snappy as" it would be hard to disagree with a subjective feeling. I don't think their objective analysis is as defensible.
- whatusername 7y ago
  in what operations? I'm not compiling code or rendering 4K on my phone.
mymindstorm 7y ago
> If you read up on the program it's more geared towards allowing customers to fix their own issues, and less of "lets go back to reliance on independent repair stores". Where do you see this? The requirements of the program directly contradict what you're saying as you need to be a registered business, have an address in a commercially zoned area, and have an apple repair certification. https://support.apple.com/irp-program https://support.apple.com/irp-program
ezzzzz 7y ago
Same phone, unfortunately missed out on the $69 battery replacement from Apple. I've not once experienced an issue with performance and the physical construction of the device is great (all aluminum body, no glass back-plate). Battery life is fine, still get all-day battery life with moderate usage. I hope Apple continues to develop products with a reasonable lifespan, but judging by their current gen Laptops, I'm not holding my breath.

by r00fus 7y ago

whalesalad 7y ago

The performance boost you will see from an upgrade will blow your mind.

saagarjha 7y ago
iPhone 7+ is a pretty capable phone. - Sent from my iPhone SE
r00fus 7y ago
I dunno, I used to log several hundred hours of calls alone in a month on my iPhone (for work mainly) but now it's a lot less. I'm not thrilled about FaceID.
- kshacker 7y ago
  So you cut down your phone use because of FaceID? Did your needs change or did you start using a second device or something?
dzhiurgis 7y ago
Current iPhones are on par with 2018 MacBooks and shreds quad-core i7 2017 MacBooks. It's mind blowing.
- michaelmrose 7y ago
  Citation needed. Laptops can have faster storage and much higher thermal and battery budgets especially when plugged in. I expect you are going to cite something that shows an artificial benchmark run for 3 seconds.
  - dzhiurgis 7y ago
    https://browser.geekbench.com/ios_devices/56 https://browser.geekbench.com/ios_devices/56 https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/search?dir=desc&q=macbook+2017+i7&sort=multicore_score https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/search?dir=desc&q=macbo...
    - michaelmrose 7y ago
      It's an artificial benchmark running for a short duration. The fact that it boils a complex topic down to a singular number should be your first indication that its nonsense. I think Geekbench is what Tiobe is to programming language rankings or Fox news is to objective news coverage. If you can't run the same tasks on the same OS you probably can't objectively compare them in a meaningful way. Lack of good data however doesn't excuse using bad data. After absorbing bad data you actually know less than when you started because you think you have objective analysis.
      - dzhiurgis 7y ago
        I've witnessed that myself by running Octane JS benchmark. I think that's pretty good indicator for most smartphone applications. I agree, storage speed is probably appalling - you still can't sync your iPhone over USB 3.0 - takes half a day to do so after a vacation... Even after that you can't deny transistor count and numbers we have. If you have better ones - do present them.
        michaelmrose 7y ago
        Not having good numbers doesn't suggest we ought to accept bad ones. If you have nothing to eat you don't eat right then you don't eat dirt. We aren't discussing smartphone applications. The topic of discussion was whether current generation iphones are on par with 2018 Macbooks. I think the practical answer is that the cpu on the phone is inherently limited by battery/heat/storage speed in actual usage. If the poster had simply said "felt as snappy as" it would be hard to disagree with a subjective feeling. I don't think their objective analysis is as defensible.
whatusername 7y ago
in what operations? I'm not compiling code or rendering 4K on my phone.

mymindstorm 7y ago

> If you read up on the program it's more geared towards allowing customers to fix their own issues, and less of "lets go back to reliance on independent repair stores". Where do you see this? The requirements of the program directly contradict what you're saying as you need to be a registered business, have an address in a commercially zoned area, and have an apple repair certification. https://support.apple.com/irp-program https://support.apple.com/irp-program

ezzzzz 7y ago

Same phone, unfortunately missed out on the $69 battery replacement from Apple. I've not once experienced an issue with performance and the physical construction of the device is great (all aluminum body, no glass back-plate). Battery life is fine, still get all-day battery life with moderate usage. I hope Apple continues to develop products with a reasonable lifespan, but judging by their current gen Laptops, I'm not holding my breath.