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Luckily, you can pay other people to do that. Apple prevents a customer from getting their own device repaired at a reputable repair shop of their choice.

scarface74 7y ago
Isn’t that the entire point of the article is that Apple is allowing repairs at “reputable shops”. And how do you “choose” a reputable shop without knowing where the parts come from?
- la_barba 7y ago
  The 'article', if we are to be charitable here, is simply a press release. There is no substance to it, and we'll have to wait to see what parts they actually provide. >And how do you “choose” a reputable shop without knowing where the parts come from? You do it either based on brand, word-of-mouth, recommendations, online reviews, or a number of other ways people have been using to find reputable service centers for decades. People who came before us fought hard and we have established a precedent for repair in many many industries so that companies like Apple are not able to rip us off by denying right to repair, and denying legitimate repair shops the ability to purchase legitimate parts.
  - somebadguy 7y ago
    Tinfoil hat time
  - scarface74 7y ago
    Online reviews are never fraudulent and people actually re disassemble the phone to know whether the parts are quality. People who came before us fought hard and we have established a precedent for repair in many many industries It’s a phone where you might save $20. It’s not like it’s the right to vote.... so that companies like Apple are not able to rip us off by denying right to repair, and denying legitimate repair shops the ability to purchase legitimate parts. And when Apple doesn’t approve a repair shop there will be another uproar about Apple “gatekeeping” repair shops....
    - la_barba 7y ago
      >It’s a phone where you might save $20. It’s not like it’s the right to vote.... You can thank them the next time you get your car fixed without buying a new car. >And when Apple doesn’t approve a repair shop there will be another uproar about Apple “gatekeeping” repair shops.... We don't want them to approve anything. The iPhone isn't some magical unicorn. Its a box that contains components purchased from suppliers around the world. Apple forces the suppliers to not provide parts to repair shops. They use DRM in random components that have nothing to do with security so that repair shops doing basic repair have to beg Apple to "activate" the new components.
      - scarface74 7y ago
        So do you really want a random supplier installing the Secure Enclave that verifies your biometric Data and ensures a secure wipe and encrypts your user data? Have you ever had a repaired phone with a faulty touch screen?
        la_barba 7y ago
        Err.. even on my PC with a TPM chip that has biometric data, I can replace the RAM, GPU, CPU or any other component without a problem. People need to think critically with a technical mind, instead of simply accepting Apples fairytales. But all that aside, people are free to repurchase a new phone or get the entire motherboard replaced when a $0.50 component fails on their phone. I and many others prefer to repair it and save money. And not to mention .. reduce the e-waste burden on our planet as a bonus.
        scarface74 7y ago
        So now you want Apple to design their system on a chip where the gpu and cpu can be replaced separately? Where can I buy an off the shelf Apple designed Ax chip?
        la_barba 7y ago

scarface74 7y ago

Isn’t that the entire point of the article is that Apple is allowing repairs at “reputable shops”. And how do you “choose” a reputable shop without knowing where the parts come from?

la_barba 7y ago
The 'article', if we are to be charitable here, is simply a press release. There is no substance to it, and we'll have to wait to see what parts they actually provide. >And how do you “choose” a reputable shop without knowing where the parts come from? You do it either based on brand, word-of-mouth, recommendations, online reviews, or a number of other ways people have been using to find reputable service centers for decades. People who came before us fought hard and we have established a precedent for repair in many many industries so that companies like Apple are not able to rip us off by denying right to repair, and denying legitimate repair shops the ability to purchase legitimate parts.
- somebadguy 7y ago
  Tinfoil hat time
- scarface74 7y ago
  Online reviews are never fraudulent and people actually re disassemble the phone to know whether the parts are quality. People who came before us fought hard and we have established a precedent for repair in many many industries It’s a phone where you might save $20. It’s not like it’s the right to vote.... so that companies like Apple are not able to rip us off by denying right to repair, and denying legitimate repair shops the ability to purchase legitimate parts. And when Apple doesn’t approve a repair shop there will be another uproar about Apple “gatekeeping” repair shops....
  - la_barba 7y ago
    >It’s a phone where you might save $20. It’s not like it’s the right to vote.... You can thank them the next time you get your car fixed without buying a new car. >And when Apple doesn’t approve a repair shop there will be another uproar about Apple “gatekeeping” repair shops.... We don't want them to approve anything. The iPhone isn't some magical unicorn. Its a box that contains components purchased from suppliers around the world. Apple forces the suppliers to not provide parts to repair shops. They use DRM in random components that have nothing to do with security so that repair shops doing basic repair have to beg Apple to "activate" the new components.
    - scarface74 7y ago
      So do you really want a random supplier installing the Secure Enclave that verifies your biometric Data and ensures a secure wipe and encrypts your user data? Have you ever had a repaired phone with a faulty touch screen?
      - la_barba 7y ago
        Err.. even on my PC with a TPM chip that has biometric data, I can replace the RAM, GPU, CPU or any other component without a problem. People need to think critically with a technical mind, instead of simply accepting Apples fairytales. But all that aside, people are free to repurchase a new phone or get the entire motherboard replaced when a $0.50 component fails on their phone. I and many others prefer to repair it and save money. And not to mention .. reduce the e-waste burden on our planet as a bonus.
        scarface74 7y ago
        So now you want Apple to design their system on a chip where the gpu and cpu can be replaced separately? Where can I buy an off the shelf Apple designed Ax chip?
        la_barba 7y ago