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Google to Start Charging for Prediction API

49 points by sinzone 16y ago

Garbage 16y ago
Now, they talking business.
VMG 16y ago
Does anyone have examples of apps that actually use the prediction API?
- harryf 16y ago
  Wanted to use it with Google Analytics for a kind of recommendation engine of the form "users that liked this page also liked...". But they never approved my request and a 60k request limit won't cut it either.
  - sinzone 16y ago
    an alternative: http://www.directededge.com/ http://www.directededge.com/ (YC startup)
- nowarninglabel 16y ago
  I'm using it in an app, since my request did get approved, but it's very rudimentary at the moment as I am still exploring it. I'll be sure to report back to HN at the point it is in full use.
srean 16y ago
To me a big weakness of the prediction API when I checked it out was that it cannot handle (i) missing values or (ii) sparse data formats. Both are very common in real life data.
staunch 16y ago
Absolute limit of 60k means it's not worth investing in if there's a chance you will hit that limit.
- tybris 16y ago
  Somehow, Google APIs always end up broken like that. Why don't they just have the balls to scale up like Amazon does? I guess it might change. Google App Engine is finally beginning to make sense, be it mainly for intranet applications.
  - borism 16y ago
    I see you two have some pretty big plans on your mind! Care to share what is it you're building that 60000 predictions per day just won't cut it?
    - tha-dude 16y ago
      ... easy, benchmarking your own algos against the prediction API on large-scale data sets. I presume that's what 90% of the people who received their account during testing did anyway :-D I did 15k requests in about 10mins at times.
- snissn 16y ago
  it also means that it's not something that they're using internally for anything important either
lazyjeff 16y ago
Does anyone know what machine learning algorithms they use?
d0mine 16y ago
btw, you don't need Prediction API to detect a language. One could use Translate API [1]: >>> detect_language_v2("Tous pour un, un pour tous, c'est notre devise", open('api_key.txt').read().rstrip()) [u'fr'] [1]: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/4545977/python-can-i-detect-unicode-string-language-code/4546813#4546813 http://stackoverflow.com/questions/4545977/python-can-i-dete...

49 points by sinzone 16y ago

Garbage 16y ago

Now, they talking business.

VMG 16y ago

Does anyone have examples of apps that actually use the prediction API?

harryf 16y ago
Wanted to use it with Google Analytics for a kind of recommendation engine of the form "users that liked this page also liked...". But they never approved my request and a 60k request limit won't cut it either.
- sinzone 16y ago
  an alternative: http://www.directededge.com/ http://www.directededge.com/ (YC startup)
nowarninglabel 16y ago
I'm using it in an app, since my request did get approved, but it's very rudimentary at the moment as I am still exploring it. I'll be sure to report back to HN at the point it is in full use.

srean 16y ago

To me a big weakness of the prediction API when I checked it out was that it cannot handle (i) missing values or (ii) sparse data formats. Both are very common in real life data.

staunch 16y ago

Absolute limit of 60k means it's not worth investing in if there's a chance you will hit that limit.

tybris 16y ago
Somehow, Google APIs always end up broken like that. Why don't they just have the balls to scale up like Amazon does? I guess it might change. Google App Engine is finally beginning to make sense, be it mainly for intranet applications.
- borism 16y ago
  I see you two have some pretty big plans on your mind! Care to share what is it you're building that 60000 predictions per day just won't cut it?
  - tha-dude 16y ago
    ... easy, benchmarking your own algos against the prediction API on large-scale data sets. I presume that's what 90% of the people who received their account during testing did anyway :-D I did 15k requests in about 10mins at times.
snissn 16y ago
it also means that it's not something that they're using internally for anything important either

lazyjeff 16y ago

Does anyone know what machine learning algorithms they use?

d0mine 16y ago

btw, you don't need Prediction API to detect a language. One could use Translate API [1]: >>> detect_language_v2("Tous pour un, un pour tous, c'est notre devise", open('api_key.txt').read().rstrip()) [u'fr'] [1]: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/4545977/python-can-i-detect-unicode-string-language-code/4546813#4546813 http://stackoverflow.com/questions/4545977/python-can-i-dete...