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Trust them to do/not do what? I use them for search. still better than anything else out there I trust them to do their best to keep gmail working I trust th

Trust them to do/not do what? I use them for search. still better than anything else out there I trust them to do their best to keep gmail working I trust them not to fudge my analytics data I don't trust them to have any sense of loyalty to me at all I don't trust them to keep my data private if given a reason not to. If Google were subpoenaed, I assume they'd give up my data in a heartbeat I think Google has almost no moral compass, but will do what it needs to to make money. for the moment that means keeping most of its users happy, so I'm happy to use them. I'd never trust Google for income, just as I don't trust Paypal. I'm not willing to put my livelihood in the hands of a company that can destroy it on a whim, and probably not even notice [Edited to add that "almost no moral compass" is not the same as "no moral compass". Facebook I'd consider to have no moral compass]

moxiemk1 16y ago
Should we expect companies to hold out when subpoenaed? Though I know it's often not the case, aren't the subpoenas vetted by the court issuing them? I'm certainly not a lawyer, but when I expect a company to follow laws for protection of my privacy, I also assume that they follow the laws when they go the other way.
fooandbarify 16y ago
Exactly. I tried for a while to stop using Google services, concerned by how much of my information they control, and I found that it was extremely impractical. Google is no longer my default search engine (unless I'm using Chrome on my netbook) but I often need to use it anyways - it just gets better results than the competition for a lot of things. Gmail is simply the best e-mail solution for me - maybe it's just because I'm used to it but I was unable to get behind any of the competitors or open source options. I typically use Analytics on all my sites, although that might be changing soon. Same with AdSense. tl;dr I don't not trust them enough to stop using their services completely, which I simply found too extremely impractical to do.

moxiemk1 16y ago

Should we expect companies to hold out when subpoenaed? Though I know it's often not the case, aren't the subpoenas vetted by the court issuing them? I'm certainly not a lawyer, but when I expect a company to follow laws for protection of my privacy, I also assume that they follow the laws when they go the other way.

fooandbarify 16y ago

Exactly. I tried for a while to stop using Google services, concerned by how much of my information they control, and I found that it was extremely impractical. Google is no longer my default search engine (unless I'm using Chrome on my netbook) but I often need to use it anyways - it just gets better results than the competition for a lot of things. Gmail is simply the best e-mail solution for me - maybe it's just because I'm used to it but I was unable to get behind any of the competitors or open source options. I typically use Analytics on all my sites, although that might be changing soon. Same with AdSense. tl;dr I don't not trust them enough to stop using their services completely, which I simply found too extremely impractical to do.